09-15-2013, 06:10 PM
Location: morrisville, nc
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I am reaching out on where to start with what to look for as far as transportation and rent. I know nothing about using the Metro or any other public transportation for that matter.
I also have no idea on best places to rent. I will be working on Wilson Blvd in Arlington @ $60-$65 annual......HELP
I'm so lost and confused with all this talk about commuting, parking, set utilities, blah blah blah.
Thank you in advance
09-15-2013, 06:36 PM
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Welcome! We'd love to help put need some more information. Tell us specifically how much you can spent on rent and how long you are willing to commute so we can narrow down your options.
09-15-2013, 08:24 PM
Location: morrisville, nc
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That is one of my problems. Keep my car or sale. Travel by bus, metro, etc. I guess I don't really want to travel more than 30-45 min. Right around the corner would be even better
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Looking to pay 1500 or less? Not sure what the criteria is for income to rent ratio or if there is one.
09-16-2013, 01:08 AM
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You didn't mention which part of Arlington, as Wilson Blvd stretches out a couple of miles. I am going to assume you will be in Rossyln, where most of the really big office buildings are located.
You have a number of options. Most people commute into Rosslyn (Arlington) by Metro, though there are some bus lines that serve that area too. That is convenient most of the time, except when the system breaks down. It does from time to time. The metro is EXTREMELY crowded and you will stand in a crush of people during rush hours (around 630-900 am and 330 to 7 pm).
Some people drive in and park. The traffic is nasty and parking is very expensive. It is generally not worth it for a single person, though some people with families in the suburbs will put up with it for the sake of a house and yard further out. In many cases, people commute several hours each way for this.
If you do decide to live "around the corner", you can find older studio apartments within a mile radius that will rent for under $1500, though usually utilities and (often) parking are extra. Cheaper older bedroom apartments a bit closer usually start around $1700. Your best bet would be to do what many younger professionals in the area do - live with a roommate or two in one of the nearby apartments and split rent and utilities.
Zillow: Real Estate, Apartments, Mortgage & Home Values in the US is a nice tool that will help you get an idea of rentals in the area. You can use it to look at other areas too. when you open zillow, uncheck the For Sale boxes and just select the For Rent checkbox. Put Rossyln in the search box. You can see more properties by zooming in, or you can drag the mouse over other areas.
When deciding about whether to keep your car, remember that parking won't be your only expense. There's the Arlington property tax to consider when you register your car. Gas will be a lot higher in this area too (
GasBuddy.com - Find Low Gas Prices in the USA and Canada ). Public transit options in Arlington are some of the best in the country, and you can get a rental car if you want to go back to NC or visit one of the Big Box stores like Costco.
Ballston and Clarenton (in Arlington, further west along Wilson Blvd) are within walkable distance or a short bus or metro hop. Those areas have a lot of bars, restaurants, stores etc as they are very popular with the 20-35 crowd. Apartments are priced higher in those areas but might also be possible for you with a couple of roommates.
Once you figure out which option is best for you, people in the forum will be happy to help you narrow down your choices and answer other questions about the area.
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09-16-2013, 06:42 AM
Location: Chapel Hill, NC, formerly NoVA and Phila
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Arlington, while considered a suburb of DC is pretty urban compared to Morrisville. It actually is probably more like Durham than like a suburb in the Triangle. Readjust your thinking for both price and travel time (distance). Thirty-minute commutes, the norm in the Triangle, are dream commutes in NoVA. Traffic is far worse, so a 15 mile commute which may take 20-25 minutes in the Triangle may take 45 minutes in NoVA.
Having said that, Arlington is not NYC, so a car is still suggested, especially if you already have one, then you should probably keep it. Not that you cannot live car-free, you can, but it would take some work.
You will be unpleasantly surprised by the cost of housing in NoVa. It's probably 100% more than in most parts of the Triangle. $700 one-bedroom apartments just don't exist. It's all about location here. And for the most part, the closer you are to DC, the more expensive (minus some rundown areas). Arlington is considered a close-in suburb and it's quite desireable, so you will pay through the nose to live there.
On the plus side, there are some things that are cheaper in Virginia - income tax, sales tax, car insurance, water (I don't know why water is so darn expensive in NC). Food is about the same, and you will find Harris Teeters in NoVA to make you feel at home. And you will find so many more things to do in DC than in the Triangle. Museum after museum, not to mention all the top tourist attractions like the monuments. There are tons of things going on all weekend, every weekend.
You will learn how to take the Metro or find a bus route.
If I were you, I'd negotiate as much as possible for the higher salary or even more if you can. You will want it!
09-16-2013, 07:15 AM
Location: morrisville, nc
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Thank you for your comments. I must say that I realize I must be more specific in what I am looking for....there are so many options that I did not think about in my initial posts. So here goes.....
~ I am mid 40, so roommates are not what I am looking to have or an extremely active nightlife.
~ I will most likely keep my car and can handle traveling an hour I guess
~ Yes it is near Rosslyn ( I have learned)
~ I did see that some people commute from MD? Thoughts on that please
~ unfortunately negotiating for even more will be out of the question. At least in the beginning. This will be my "opening debut" in this type of position and I am not in a field that makes loads of $$$$
~ Crowded Metro day after day is not something that sounds like much fun.
~ I even looked into extended stay hotels to see what those would run, I will be starting from the ground up. Leaving pretty much everything with my daughter vs her not having anything.
I hope this helps give a clearer picture of what I am looking for in my next chapter in life. I am pretty laid back and just want a cute little place that is safe, not lots of hassle to get back and forth, but still convenient to some of the fun stuff the area has to offer.
09-16-2013, 07:42 AM
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$1500 rent and not wanting roommates is not going to happen in Arlington.
09-16-2013, 07:48 AM
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I disagree. I think it is possible to find a small studio apartment for under $1500 in Arlington, particularly in locations removed from a Metro station such as the Columbia Pike area.
That area would be under a 30 minute commute to Rosslyn. Either only like a 10 minute drive, or, if parking is prohibitively expensive, a short bus ride to the Pentagon Metro station, which is only two stops from Rosslyn.
09-16-2013, 08:36 AM
Location: among the clustered spires
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Hmm. If you are 40 and kids/schools aren't a factor, I'd look at places in Prince George's -- Bowie, Cheverly, Hyattsville, come to mind. They are on the opposite end of the Orange Line and far cheaper than comparable places in VA.
On the VA side, maybe Springfield (Blue Line) or Fairfax (nearish the Orange Line) could be considered.
09-16-2013, 01:23 PM
Location: Chapel Hill, NC, formerly NoVA and Phila
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I wonder if an apartment right by the Vienna Metro Station would work. It's a nice, pretty suburban area. You could hop on the Metro to work (last stop so you'd get a seat). I know you said being on a crowded Metro was not what you consider fun, but I personally preferred riding the Metro versus driving. I did it for 9 years - sat down, read a book, arrived at my stop refreshed. I loved it! My car got little use and wear and tear during those years.
I think you could get a place for under $1500 by the Vienna Metro. Although, no matter where you live, make sure you factor in cost of commute. Some places subsidize if you take public transportation, which can be a real bonus because Metro isn't cheap, but neither is driving/parking.
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People in Group quarters - Residential treatment centers for emotionally disturbed children (%)
People in Group quarters - Training schools for juvenile delinquents (%)
People in Group quarters - Short-term care, detention or diagnostic centers for delinquent children (%)
People in Group quarters - Type of juvenile institution unknown (%)
People in Group quarters - Noninstitutionalized population (%)
People in Group quarters - College dormitories (includes college quarters off campus) (%)
People in Group quarters - Military quarters (%)
People in Group quarters - On base (%)
People in Group quarters - Barracks, unaccompanied personnel housing (UPH), (Enlisted/Officer), ;and similar group living quarters for military personnel (%)
People in Group quarters - Transient quarters for temporary residents (%)
People in Group quarters - Military ships (%)
People in Group quarters - Group homes (%)
People in Group quarters - Homes or halfway houses for drug/alcohol abuse (%)
People in Group quarters - Homes for the mentally ill (%)
People in Group quarters - Homes for the mentally retarded (%)
People in Group quarters - Homes for the physically handicapped (%)
People in Group quarters - Other group homes (%)
People in Group quarters - Religious group quarters (%)
People in Group quarters - Dormitories (%)
People in Group quarters - Agriculture workers' dormitories on farms (%)
People in Group quarters - Job Corps and vocational training facilities (%)
People in Group quarters - Other workers' dormitories (%)
People in Group quarters - Crews of maritime vessels (%)
People in Group quarters - Other nonhousehold living situations (%)
People in Group quarters - Other noninstitutional group quarters (%)
Residents speaking English at home (%)
Residents speaking English at home - Born in the United States (%)
Residents speaking English at home - Native, born elsewhere (%)
Residents speaking English at home - Foreign born (%)
Residents speaking Spanish at home (%)
Residents speaking Spanish at home - Born in the United States (%)
Residents speaking Spanish at home - Native, born elsewhere (%)
Residents speaking Spanish at home - Foreign born (%)
Residents speaking other language at home (%)
Residents speaking other language at home - Born in the United States (%)
Residents speaking other language at home - Native, born elsewhere (%)
Residents speaking other language at home - Foreign born (%)
Class of Workers - Employee of private company (%)
Class of Workers - Self-employed in own incorporated business (%)
Class of Workers - Private not-for-profit wage and salary workers (%)
Class of Workers - Local government workers (%)
Class of Workers - State government workers (%)
Class of Workers - Federal government workers (%)
Class of Workers - Self-employed workers in own not incorporated business and Unpaid family workers (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Utility gas (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Bottled, tank, or LP gas (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Electricity (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Fuel oil, kerosene, etc. (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Coal or coke (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Wood (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Solar energy (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Other fuel (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - No fuel used (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Utility gas (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Bottled, tank, or LP gas (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Electricity (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Fuel oil, kerosene, etc. (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Coal or coke (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Wood (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Solar energy (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Other fuel (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - No fuel used (%)
Armed forces status - In Armed Forces (%)
Armed forces status - Civilian (%)
Armed forces status - Civilian - Veteran (%)
Armed forces status - Civilian - Nonveteran (%)
Fatal accidents locations in years 2005-2021
Fatal accidents locations in 2005
Fatal accidents locations in 2006
Fatal accidents locations in 2007
Fatal accidents locations in 2008
Fatal accidents locations in 2009
Fatal accidents locations in 2010
Fatal accidents locations in 2011
Fatal accidents locations in 2012
Fatal accidents locations in 2013
Fatal accidents locations in 2014
Fatal accidents locations in 2015
Fatal accidents locations in 2016
Fatal accidents locations in 2017
Fatal accidents locations in 2018
Fatal accidents locations in 2019
Fatal accidents locations in 2020
Fatal accidents locations in 2021
Alcohol use - People drinking some alcohol every month (%)
Alcohol use - People not drinking at all (%)
Alcohol use - Average days/month drinking alcohol
Alcohol use - Average drinks/week
Alcohol use - Average days/year people drink much
Audiometry - Average condition of hearing (%)
Audiometry - People that can hear a whisper from across a quiet room (%)
Audiometry - People that can hear normal voice from across a quiet room (%)
Audiometry - Ears ringing, roaring, buzzing (%)
Audiometry - Had a job exposure to loud noise (%)
Audiometry - Had off-work exposure to loud noise (%)
Blood Pressure & Cholesterol - Has high blood pressure (%)
Blood Pressure & Cholesterol - Checking blood pressure at home (%)
Blood Pressure & Cholesterol - Frequently checking blood cholesterol (%)
Blood Pressure & Cholesterol - Has high cholesterol level (%)
Consumer Behavior - Money monthly spent on food at supermarket/grocery store
Consumer Behavior - Money monthly spent on food at other stores
Consumer Behavior - Money monthly spent on eating out
Consumer Behavior - Money monthly spent on carryout/delivered foods
Consumer Behavior - Income spent on food at supermarket/grocery store (%)
Consumer Behavior - Income spent on food at other stores (%)
Consumer Behavior - Income spent on eating out (%)
Consumer Behavior - Income spent on carryout/delivered foods (%)
Current Health Status - General health condition (%)
Current Health Status - Blood donors (%)
Current Health Status - Has blood ever tested for HIV virus (%)
Current Health Status - Left-handed people (%)
Dermatology - People using sunscreen (%)
Diabetes - Diabetics (%)
Diabetes - Had a blood test for high blood sugar (%)
Diabetes - People taking insulin (%)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Diet health (%)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Milk product consumption (# of products/month)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Meals not home prepared (#/week)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Meals from fast food or pizza place (#/week)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Ready-to-eat foods (#/month)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Frozen meals/pizza (#/month)
Drug Use - People that ever used marijuana or hashish (%)
Drug Use - Ever used hard drugs (%)
Drug Use - Ever used any form of cocaine (%)
Drug Use - Ever used heroin (%)
Drug Use - Ever used methamphetamine (%)
Health Insurance - People covered by health insurance (%)
Kidney Conditions-Urology - Avg. # of times urinating at night
Medical Conditions - People with asthma (%)
Medical Conditions - People with anemia (%)
Medical Conditions - People with psoriasis (%)
Medical Conditions - People with overweight (%)
Medical Conditions - Elderly people having difficulties in thinking or remembering (%)
Medical Conditions - People who ever received blood transfusion (%)
Medical Conditions - People having trouble seeing even with glass/contacts (%)
Medical Conditions - People with arthritis (%)
Medical Conditions - People with gout (%)
Medical Conditions - People with congestive heart failure (%)
Medical Conditions - People with coronary heart disease (%)
Medical Conditions - People with angina pectoris (%)
Medical Conditions - People who ever had heart attack (%)
Medical Conditions - People who ever had stroke (%)
Medical Conditions - People with emphysema (%)
Medical Conditions - People with thyroid problem (%)
Medical Conditions - People with chronic bronchitis (%)
Medical Conditions - People with any liver condition (%)
Medical Conditions - People who ever had cancer or malignancy (%)
Mental Health - People who have little interest in doing things (%)
Mental Health - People feeling down, depressed, or hopeless (%)
Mental Health - People who have trouble sleeping or sleeping too much (%)
Mental Health - People feeling tired or having little energy (%)
Mental Health - People with poor appetite or overeating (%)
Mental Health - People feeling bad about themself (%)
Mental Health - People who have trouble concentrating on things (%)
Mental Health - People moving or speaking slowly or too fast (%)
Mental Health - People having thoughts they would be better off dead (%)
Oral Health - Average years since last visit a dentist
Oral Health - People embarrassed because of mouth (%)
Oral Health - People with gum disease (%)
Oral Health - General health of teeth and gums (%)
Oral Health - Average days a week using dental floss/device
Oral Health - Average days a week using mouthwash for dental problem
Oral Health - Average number of teeth
Pesticide Use - Households using pesticides to control insects (%)
Pesticide Use - Households using pesticides to kill weeds (%)
Physical Activity - People doing vigorous-intensity work activities (%)
Physical Activity - People doing moderate-intensity work activities (%)
Physical Activity - People walking or bicycling (%)
Physical Activity - People doing vigorous-intensity recreational activities (%)
Physical Activity - People doing moderate-intensity recreational activities (%)
Physical Activity - Average hours a day doing sedentary activities
Physical Activity - Average hours a day watching TV or videos
Physical Activity - Average hours a day using computer
Physical Functioning - People having limitations keeping them from working (%)
Physical Functioning - People limited in amount of work they can do (%)
Physical Functioning - People that need special equipment to walk (%)
Physical Functioning - People experiencing confusion/memory problems (%)
Physical Functioning - People requiring special healthcare equipment (%)
Prescription Medications - Average number of prescription medicines taking
Preventive Aspirin Use - Adults 40+ taking low-dose aspirin (%)
Reproductive Health - Vaginal deliveries (%)
Reproductive Health - Cesarean deliveries (%)
Reproductive Health - Deliveries resulted in a live birth (%)
Reproductive Health - Pregnancies resulted in a delivery (%)
Reproductive Health - Women breastfeeding newborns (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that had a hysterectomy (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that had both ovaries removed (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that have ever taken birth control pills (%)
Reproductive Health - Women taking birth control pills (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that have ever used Depo-Provera or injectables (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that have ever used female hormones (%)
Sexual Behavior - People 18+ that ever had sex (vaginal, anal, or oral) (%)
Sexual Behavior - Males 18+ that ever had vaginal sex with a woman (%)
Sexual Behavior - Males 18+ that ever performed oral sex on a woman (%)
Sexual Behavior - Males 18+ that ever had anal sex with a woman (%)
Sexual Behavior - Males 18+ that ever had any sex with a man (%)
Sexual Behavior - Females 18+ that ever had vaginal sex with a man (%)
Sexual Behavior - Females 18+ that ever performed oral sex on a man (%)
Sexual Behavior - Females 18+ that ever had anal sex with a man (%)
Sexual Behavior - Females 18+ that ever had any kind of sex with a woman (%)
Sexual Behavior - Average age people first had sex
Sexual Behavior - Average number of female sex partners in lifetime (males 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of female vaginal sex partners in lifetime (males 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average age people first performed oral sex on a woman (18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of woman performed oral sex on in lifetime (18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male sex partners in lifetime (males 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male anal sex partners in lifetime (males 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average age people first performed oral sex on a man (18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male oral sex partners in lifetime (18+)
Sexual Behavior - People using protection when performing oral sex (%)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of times people have vaginal or anal sex a year
Sexual Behavior - People having sex without condom (%)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male sex partners in lifetime (females 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male vaginal sex partners in lifetime (females 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of female sex partners in lifetime (females 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Circumcised males 18+ (%)
Sleep Disorders - Average hours sleeping at night
Sleep Disorders - People that has trouble sleeping (%)
Smoking-Cigarette Use - People smoking cigarettes (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ having problems with smell (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ having problems with taste (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had wisdom teeth removed (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had tonsils teeth removed (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had a loss of consciousness because of a head injury (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had a broken nose or other serious injury to face or skull (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had two or more sinus infections (%)
Weight - Average height (inches)
Weight - Average weight (pounds)
Weight - Average BMI
Weight - People that are obese (%)
Weight - People that ever were obese (%)
Weight - People trying to lose weight (%)