08-29-2009, 09:22 AM
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Wikipedia DOES have a list of credible sources more often than not though listed nicely on the bottom of each article. This came in very handy for me when I realized I forgot to do a 3-page research paper one time a half-hour before class!
08-29-2009, 02:40 PM
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live_strong28
I've seen news reports where people are angry that Ted is jumping the line ahead of dead soldiers for burial at Arlington Cemetery when he never served in the military.
Well, initially you cited "news" sources saying that Kennedy was never in the military....then when corrected, you cite evidence that that his military service wasn't quite up to snuff. (but, I'm sure dubya taking a few flights over Texas, before he went missing, is the stuff of heroes!)
Let me guess, is your "news" source the same one that identified Gov. Mark Sanford as a Democrat? I guess they know their audience. LOL
As for Ted jumping the line at the cemetary....if there's anything the military types understand, it's that "rank has it's privileges".
BTW, if you want to dance on Teddy's grave....try the politics forum. I haven't looked (lack the stomach), but I'm sure they're in a total frenzy over there.
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08-29-2009, 05:20 PM
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car54
Well, initially you cited "news" sources saying that Kennedy was never in the military....then when corrected, you cite evidence that that his military service wasn't quite up to snuff. (but, I'm sure dubya taking a few flights over Texas, before he went missing, is the stuff of heroes!)
You obviously misread.
I said that the
news reported that people were upset that Ted jumped the line ahead of dead soldiers for burial when he never served .
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live_strong28
I've seen news reports where people are angry that Ted is jumping the line ahead of dead soldiers for burial at Arlington Cemetery when he never served in the military.
When someone noted on this blog that Ted was rightful to be buried there due to his military "service," I provided a bit more details on that.
Therefore, don't accuse people of jumping on anyone's grave until you learn how to read.
Beyond all that BS was a tidbit/link on Ted and the Catholic church, which is also very interesting. I wonder if the Pope even opened up that letter.
I don't think Archbishop Cardinal Sean O'Malley will presided over Kennedy's funeral today.
08-29-2009, 06:19 PM
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"Here in Rome Ted Kennedy is nobody. He's a legend with his own constituency," says the Vatican official.
08-29-2009, 06:21 PM
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So, the point of the "news" report was that there are ignorant people that are unaware that Kennedy served in the military? That doesn't surprise me. Just more tricky phrasing from the ole fair and balanced folks, eh?
08-29-2009, 06:37 PM
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live_strong28
You obviously misread.
I said that the
news reported that people were upset that Ted jumped the line ahead of dead soldiers for burial when he never served .
When someone noted on this blog that Ted was rightful to be buried there due to his military "service," I provided a bit more details on that.
Therefore, don't accuse people of jumping on anyone's grave until you learn how to read.
Beyond all that BS was a tidbit/link on Ted and the Catholic church, which is also very interesting. I wonder if the Pope even opened up that letter.
I don't think Archbishop Cardinal Sean O'Malley will presided over Kennedy's funeral today.
And you put service in quotes, which along with the way you emphasized parts of the quotes from Wikipedia connote that you are backpedaling yet still trying to slur him. I got my info from the same source before posting, and what I took away from it was that he served. Arlington Cemetery officials override your objection (which, be honest, never was about "some people in the news", right?)
Fact is, you tossed out an insinuation that Kennedy doesn't deserve burial in Arlington with a falsehood ("he didn't serve"), I corrected that, and you come back still maintaining his service wasn't really service and therefore he's disqualified.
I dare say he served the country a lot more than anyone else on this thread. Your obvious dislike of him doesn't change that.
08-29-2009, 07:00 PM
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live_strong28
LOL!
Yes, you clearly identified the information as coming from Wiki. Did I suggest otherwise?
However, I did feel the urge to point out that the praise seemed disproportionate to your cut-and-paste [hatchet] job, which seemed uncouth, given that the burial service was this afternoon.
08-29-2009, 08:03 PM
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JEB77
Yes, you clearly identified the information as coming from Wiki. Did I suggest otherwise?
With regard to your opinion about it seeming "uncouth," remind yourself that this is a blog. Posters, ScranBarre in this case, are allowed to post what they want as long as it's within the guidelines and rules. Should this blog have been shut down today? It wasn't.
If it upset you, too bad.
08-29-2009, 08:04 PM
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robbobobbo
And you put service in quotes, which along with the way you emphasized parts of the quotes from Wikipedia connote that you are backpedaling yet still trying to slur him. I got my info from the same source before posting, and what I took away from it was that he served. Arlington Cemetery officials override your objection (which, be honest, never was about "some people in the news", right?)
Ok, so you admit that you got on Wiki
just so that you were able to notch down that he "served" x years in the military. So when I did the same, but "cut and paste" a bit more information that you read and learned yourself, but didn't bother to post, then that's wrong?
Puhleaze.
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08-30-2009, 02:56 PM
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car54
Well, initially you cited "news" sources saying that Kennedy was never in the military....then when corrected, you cite evidence that that his military service wasn't quite up to snuff. (but, I'm sure dubya taking a few flights over Texas, before he went missing, is the stuff of heroes!)
What's your point in bringing up George W. Bush?
Ok, so Bush took a "few flights over Texas" as part of the Air National Guard.
"In May 1968, Bush was commissioned into the
Texas Air National Guard .
[28] After two years of active-duty service while training,
[29] he was assigned to Houston, flying
Convair F-102s out of
Ellington Air Force Base .
[30] Critics, including former
Democratic National Committee Chairman
Terry McAuliffe and
Russ Baker , have alleged that Bush was favorably treated due to his father's political standing, citing his selection as a pilot despite his low pilot aptitude test scores and his irregular attendance.
[31] In June 2005, the
United States Department of Defense released all the records of Bush's Texas Air National Guard service, which remain in its official archives.
[32]
In late 1972 and early 1973, he
drilled with the
Alabama Air National Guard , having moved to
Montgomery, Alabama to work on the unsuccessful U.S. Senate campaign of Republican
Winton M. Blount . In October 1973, Bush was discharged from the Texas Air National Guard and transferred to
inactive duty in the
Air Force Reserve . He was honorably discharged from the Air Force Reserve on November 21, 1974, at the end of his six-year service obligation.
[33] "
George W. Bush - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
Read again, Bush ACTUALLY FLEW a US Air Force Aircraft! Can you do that?
And what did Teddy do? He polished his shoes nice and shiny as as part of the honor guard. Whoopeee!!!
"Kennedy enlisted in the
United States Army in June 1951.
[9] Following
basic training at
Fort Dix , he requested assignment to
Fort Holabird for
Army Intelligence training, but was dropped after a few weeks without explanation.
[9] He went to
Camp Gordon for training in the
Military Police Corps .
[9] In June 1952, he was assigned to the
honor guard at
SHAPE headquarters in
Paris .
[2] [9] His father's political connections ensured he was not deployed to the ongoing
Korean War .
[2] [10] While stationed in Europe he travelled extensively on weekends and climbed the
Matterhorn .
[11] He was discharged in March 1953 as a
private first class .
[9] [11] "
Ted Kennedy - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
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People in Group quarters - Residential treatment centers for emotionally disturbed children (%)
People in Group quarters - Training schools for juvenile delinquents (%)
People in Group quarters - Short-term care, detention or diagnostic centers for delinquent children (%)
People in Group quarters - Type of juvenile institution unknown (%)
People in Group quarters - Noninstitutionalized population (%)
People in Group quarters - College dormitories (includes college quarters off campus) (%)
People in Group quarters - Military quarters (%)
People in Group quarters - On base (%)
People in Group quarters - Barracks, unaccompanied personnel housing (UPH), (Enlisted/Officer), ;and similar group living quarters for military personnel (%)
People in Group quarters - Transient quarters for temporary residents (%)
People in Group quarters - Military ships (%)
People in Group quarters - Group homes (%)
People in Group quarters - Homes or halfway houses for drug/alcohol abuse (%)
People in Group quarters - Homes for the mentally ill (%)
People in Group quarters - Homes for the mentally retarded (%)
People in Group quarters - Homes for the physically handicapped (%)
People in Group quarters - Other group homes (%)
People in Group quarters - Religious group quarters (%)
People in Group quarters - Dormitories (%)
People in Group quarters - Agriculture workers' dormitories on farms (%)
People in Group quarters - Job Corps and vocational training facilities (%)
People in Group quarters - Other workers' dormitories (%)
People in Group quarters - Crews of maritime vessels (%)
People in Group quarters - Other nonhousehold living situations (%)
People in Group quarters - Other noninstitutional group quarters (%)
Residents speaking English at home (%)
Residents speaking English at home - Born in the United States (%)
Residents speaking English at home - Native, born elsewhere (%)
Residents speaking English at home - Foreign born (%)
Residents speaking Spanish at home (%)
Residents speaking Spanish at home - Born in the United States (%)
Residents speaking Spanish at home - Native, born elsewhere (%)
Residents speaking Spanish at home - Foreign born (%)
Residents speaking other language at home (%)
Residents speaking other language at home - Born in the United States (%)
Residents speaking other language at home - Native, born elsewhere (%)
Residents speaking other language at home - Foreign born (%)
Class of Workers - Employee of private company (%)
Class of Workers - Self-employed in own incorporated business (%)
Class of Workers - Private not-for-profit wage and salary workers (%)
Class of Workers - Local government workers (%)
Class of Workers - State government workers (%)
Class of Workers - Federal government workers (%)
Class of Workers - Self-employed workers in own not incorporated business and Unpaid family workers (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Utility gas (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Bottled, tank, or LP gas (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Electricity (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Fuel oil, kerosene, etc. (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Coal or coke (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Wood (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Solar energy (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Other fuel (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - No fuel used (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Utility gas (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Bottled, tank, or LP gas (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Electricity (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Fuel oil, kerosene, etc. (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Coal or coke (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Wood (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Solar energy (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Other fuel (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - No fuel used (%)
Armed forces status - In Armed Forces (%)
Armed forces status - Civilian (%)
Armed forces status - Civilian - Veteran (%)
Armed forces status - Civilian - Nonveteran (%)
Fatal accidents locations in years 2005-2021
Fatal accidents locations in 2005
Fatal accidents locations in 2006
Fatal accidents locations in 2007
Fatal accidents locations in 2008
Fatal accidents locations in 2009
Fatal accidents locations in 2010
Fatal accidents locations in 2011
Fatal accidents locations in 2012
Fatal accidents locations in 2013
Fatal accidents locations in 2014
Fatal accidents locations in 2015
Fatal accidents locations in 2016
Fatal accidents locations in 2017
Fatal accidents locations in 2018
Fatal accidents locations in 2019
Fatal accidents locations in 2020
Fatal accidents locations in 2021
Alcohol use - People drinking some alcohol every month (%)
Alcohol use - People not drinking at all (%)
Alcohol use - Average days/month drinking alcohol
Alcohol use - Average drinks/week
Alcohol use - Average days/year people drink much
Audiometry - Average condition of hearing (%)
Audiometry - People that can hear a whisper from across a quiet room (%)
Audiometry - People that can hear normal voice from across a quiet room (%)
Audiometry - Ears ringing, roaring, buzzing (%)
Audiometry - Had a job exposure to loud noise (%)
Audiometry - Had off-work exposure to loud noise (%)
Blood Pressure & Cholesterol - Has high blood pressure (%)
Blood Pressure & Cholesterol - Checking blood pressure at home (%)
Blood Pressure & Cholesterol - Frequently checking blood cholesterol (%)
Blood Pressure & Cholesterol - Has high cholesterol level (%)
Consumer Behavior - Money monthly spent on food at supermarket/grocery store
Consumer Behavior - Money monthly spent on food at other stores
Consumer Behavior - Money monthly spent on eating out
Consumer Behavior - Money monthly spent on carryout/delivered foods
Consumer Behavior - Income spent on food at supermarket/grocery store (%)
Consumer Behavior - Income spent on food at other stores (%)
Consumer Behavior - Income spent on eating out (%)
Consumer Behavior - Income spent on carryout/delivered foods (%)
Current Health Status - General health condition (%)
Current Health Status - Blood donors (%)
Current Health Status - Has blood ever tested for HIV virus (%)
Current Health Status - Left-handed people (%)
Dermatology - People using sunscreen (%)
Diabetes - Diabetics (%)
Diabetes - Had a blood test for high blood sugar (%)
Diabetes - People taking insulin (%)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Diet health (%)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Milk product consumption (# of products/month)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Meals not home prepared (#/week)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Meals from fast food or pizza place (#/week)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Ready-to-eat foods (#/month)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Frozen meals/pizza (#/month)
Drug Use - People that ever used marijuana or hashish (%)
Drug Use - Ever used hard drugs (%)
Drug Use - Ever used any form of cocaine (%)
Drug Use - Ever used heroin (%)
Drug Use - Ever used methamphetamine (%)
Health Insurance - People covered by health insurance (%)
Kidney Conditions-Urology - Avg. # of times urinating at night
Medical Conditions - People with asthma (%)
Medical Conditions - People with anemia (%)
Medical Conditions - People with psoriasis (%)
Medical Conditions - People with overweight (%)
Medical Conditions - Elderly people having difficulties in thinking or remembering (%)
Medical Conditions - People who ever received blood transfusion (%)
Medical Conditions - People having trouble seeing even with glass/contacts (%)
Medical Conditions - People with arthritis (%)
Medical Conditions - People with gout (%)
Medical Conditions - People with congestive heart failure (%)
Medical Conditions - People with coronary heart disease (%)
Medical Conditions - People with angina pectoris (%)
Medical Conditions - People who ever had heart attack (%)
Medical Conditions - People who ever had stroke (%)
Medical Conditions - People with emphysema (%)
Medical Conditions - People with thyroid problem (%)
Medical Conditions - People with chronic bronchitis (%)
Medical Conditions - People with any liver condition (%)
Medical Conditions - People who ever had cancer or malignancy (%)
Mental Health - People who have little interest in doing things (%)
Mental Health - People feeling down, depressed, or hopeless (%)
Mental Health - People who have trouble sleeping or sleeping too much (%)
Mental Health - People feeling tired or having little energy (%)
Mental Health - People with poor appetite or overeating (%)
Mental Health - People feeling bad about themself (%)
Mental Health - People who have trouble concentrating on things (%)
Mental Health - People moving or speaking slowly or too fast (%)
Mental Health - People having thoughts they would be better off dead (%)
Oral Health - Average years since last visit a dentist
Oral Health - People embarrassed because of mouth (%)
Oral Health - People with gum disease (%)
Oral Health - General health of teeth and gums (%)
Oral Health - Average days a week using dental floss/device
Oral Health - Average days a week using mouthwash for dental problem
Oral Health - Average number of teeth
Pesticide Use - Households using pesticides to control insects (%)
Pesticide Use - Households using pesticides to kill weeds (%)
Physical Activity - People doing vigorous-intensity work activities (%)
Physical Activity - People doing moderate-intensity work activities (%)
Physical Activity - People walking or bicycling (%)
Physical Activity - People doing vigorous-intensity recreational activities (%)
Physical Activity - People doing moderate-intensity recreational activities (%)
Physical Activity - Average hours a day doing sedentary activities
Physical Activity - Average hours a day watching TV or videos
Physical Activity - Average hours a day using computer
Physical Functioning - People having limitations keeping them from working (%)
Physical Functioning - People limited in amount of work they can do (%)
Physical Functioning - People that need special equipment to walk (%)
Physical Functioning - People experiencing confusion/memory problems (%)
Physical Functioning - People requiring special healthcare equipment (%)
Prescription Medications - Average number of prescription medicines taking
Preventive Aspirin Use - Adults 40+ taking low-dose aspirin (%)
Reproductive Health - Vaginal deliveries (%)
Reproductive Health - Cesarean deliveries (%)
Reproductive Health - Deliveries resulted in a live birth (%)
Reproductive Health - Pregnancies resulted in a delivery (%)
Reproductive Health - Women breastfeeding newborns (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that had a hysterectomy (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that had both ovaries removed (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that have ever taken birth control pills (%)
Reproductive Health - Women taking birth control pills (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that have ever used Depo-Provera or injectables (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that have ever used female hormones (%)
Sexual Behavior - People 18+ that ever had sex (vaginal, anal, or oral) (%)
Sexual Behavior - Males 18+ that ever had vaginal sex with a woman (%)
Sexual Behavior - Males 18+ that ever performed oral sex on a woman (%)
Sexual Behavior - Males 18+ that ever had anal sex with a woman (%)
Sexual Behavior - Males 18+ that ever had any sex with a man (%)
Sexual Behavior - Females 18+ that ever had vaginal sex with a man (%)
Sexual Behavior - Females 18+ that ever performed oral sex on a man (%)
Sexual Behavior - Females 18+ that ever had anal sex with a man (%)
Sexual Behavior - Females 18+ that ever had any kind of sex with a woman (%)
Sexual Behavior - Average age people first had sex
Sexual Behavior - Average number of female sex partners in lifetime (males 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of female vaginal sex partners in lifetime (males 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average age people first performed oral sex on a woman (18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of woman performed oral sex on in lifetime (18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male sex partners in lifetime (males 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male anal sex partners in lifetime (males 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average age people first performed oral sex on a man (18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male oral sex partners in lifetime (18+)
Sexual Behavior - People using protection when performing oral sex (%)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of times people have vaginal or anal sex a year
Sexual Behavior - People having sex without condom (%)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male sex partners in lifetime (females 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male vaginal sex partners in lifetime (females 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of female sex partners in lifetime (females 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Circumcised males 18+ (%)
Sleep Disorders - Average hours sleeping at night
Sleep Disorders - People that has trouble sleeping (%)
Smoking-Cigarette Use - People smoking cigarettes (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ having problems with smell (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ having problems with taste (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had wisdom teeth removed (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had tonsils teeth removed (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had a loss of consciousness because of a head injury (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had a broken nose or other serious injury to face or skull (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had two or more sinus infections (%)
Weight - Average height (inches)
Weight - Average weight (pounds)
Weight - Average BMI
Weight - People that are obese (%)
Weight - People that ever were obese (%)
Weight - People trying to lose weight (%)
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