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And no, you don't widen freeways, you create express lanes out of existing lanes. When drivers sitting in traffic see buses whipping by, it gives more incentive to give up the car.
Political suicide. As it stands now, IIRC, the H-1 has 6 lanes (3 in each direction), all of which are at capacity during peak hours. By making one of those lanes a bus-only lane, you've just shrunk your lane capacity by a third. Maybe, over time, enough people would switch to the express buses to make it worth while. But in the short term -- which is the only term most politicians understand -- you'd have absolutely gridlock on the two general-purpose lanes while the third lane is almost empty.
It's not going to Waikiki? With a huge, ready-made market of tourists and service-industry workers packed in to that densely populated little space? Why in blazes not?
It's not going to Waikiki? With a huge, ready-made market of tourists and service-industry workers packed in to that densely populated little space? Why in blazes not?
Stops at Ala Moana mall. I'd imagine it won't go to Waikiki due to cost and the rail is meant for commuters, not tourists. The number of worker in Waikiki with staggered shifts is much smaller than downtown who generally come to work at the same time.
A better value proposition rather than Waikiki would be having a station at University of Hawaii - when UH is not in session you definitely see a drop in traffic.
The reality is even if you build lightrail your still going to have a high traffic issue. Like Max here people use it but more people still drive cars.
I have to admit its kinda frustrating this growth issue topic because its like trying to solve alcoholism by switching to drinking different types of alcohol.
One group talks about how we need lightrail and taller buildings to handle the population growth but then don't realise that the reason we have a population growth is because we are building taller, redeveloping and building lightrail type projects in Oahu.
Kinda an insane cycle in my opinion. And like most locals concerned about mass redeveloping is it being planned properly for the future?
Stops at Ala Moana mall. I'd imagine it won't go to Waikiki due to cost and the rail is meant for commuters, not tourists. The number of worker in Waikiki with staggered shifts is much smaller than downtown who generally come to work at the same time.
A better value proposition rather than Waikiki would be having a station at University of Hawaii - when UH is not in session you definitely see a drop in traffic.
I realize that Ala Moana is close, but you're still going to need shuttle buses to link up with Waikiki. Forcing a transfer is a disincentive to use transit.
The staggered shifts of the workers, and the random travel times of the tourists, is actually an argument in favor of extending the line to Waikiki. These folks, by riding in off-hours, would help spread out the demand and thus maximize the utilization of the system across different hours of the day. If the system is to rely solely on commuters, it will be packed during rush hours but sparsely occupied the rest of the day.
I do agree that the UH-Manoa would also be a good destination, for the some of the same reasons that Waikiki would be.
I realize that Ala Moana is close, but you're still going to need shuttle buses to link up with Waikiki. Forcing a transfer is a disincentive to use transit.
The staggered shifts of the workers, and the random travel times of the tourists, is actually an argument in favor of extending the line to Waikiki. These folks, by riding in off-hours, would help spread out the demand and thus maximize the utilization of the system across different hours of the day. If the system is to rely solely on commuters, it will be packed during rush hours but sparsely occupied the rest of the day.
Ride the commuter trains in Chicago to/from the suburbs during the daytime and they barely have any people - same with BART in San Francisco. The majority of tourists don't leave Waikiki - and the Japanese tourists all use the tour companies - I definitely don't see them using rail from the airport with all the luggage they carry.
Except for Kalakaua Ave going into the convention center from the highway - Waikiki isn't that congested like the west side of Oahu - it isn't like the Las Vegas strip on a Friday night.
All this said, I am in favor of the Honolulu rail system.
It's not going to Waikiki? With a huge, ready-made market of tourists and service-industry workers packed in to that densely populated little space? Why in blazes not?
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It's confused voters like yourself that brought this catastrophic mess to our aina.
Malahini are much more supportive of rail than locals... "Oh, where I come from we have light rail and it's juuuuuust wonderfullllllll!!!" Even if they have no real understanding of the system in its proposed form and how it impacts our tiny remote island, they still support it simply because where they came from they had it and they want the same way of life here.
Personally, I don't know a single long-time local that supports rail in any form. Not one person. And I know a lot of people.
This is an example of locals being overrun by special interests and outside influence. Our greedy landowners, politicians and developers took advantage of the situation and capitalized on it splendidly.
It's confused voters like yourself that brought this catastrophic mess to our aina.
Malahini are much more supportive of rail than locals... "Oh, where I come from we have light rail and it's juuuuuust wonderfullllllll!!!" Even if they have no real understanding of the system in its proposed form and how it impacts our tiny remote island, they still support it simply because where they came from they had it and they want the same way of life here.
Personally, I don't know a single long-time local that supports rail in any form. Not one person. And I know a lot of people.
This is an example of locals being overrun by special interests and outside influence. Our greedy landowners, politicians and developers took advantage of the situation and capitalized on it splendidly.
Jesus, its about time someone other then me and few others called it for what it is. +1000
Malahini are much more supportive of rail than locals... "Oh, where I come from we have light rail and it's juuuuuust wonderfullllllll!!!" Even if they have no real understanding of the system in its proposed form and how it impacts our tiny remote island, they still support it simply because where they came from they had it and they want the same way of life here.
Personally, I don't know a single long-time local that supports rail in any form. Not one person. And I know a lot of people.
This particular rail project does seem kind of silly - although it is putting a lot of people to work.
The traffic is only going to get much worse - what do you propose to fix the traffic?
I think building up Kakaako is the best solution to getting cars off of the road. I think that is the only realistic option.
I realize that Ala Moana is close, but you're still going to need shuttle buses to link up with Waikiki. Forcing a transfer is a disincentive to use transit.
How do you think 90% of the people that ride the proposed rail system plan to get to the actual rail station? You do realize it's just a straight line elevated system, most of which cuts through areas that currently have relatively low to almost non existent population density?
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