Are there BAD areas on Oahu?? Please Help!! (Kaneohe, Kailua: section 8, violent crime)

[HottDogg373]

Originally Posted by Jungjohann

Just because one is homeless doesn't mean one can't handle multi-,,,, uuuurrrrrrrpppppp, scuze me, tasking

Maybe the pc term is urinating when the dude was actually monkey slapping..............lol.

[HankDfrmSD]

Originally Posted by shelbyc

Can you give me an idea of daily rainfall as well? Does it differ dramatically one on the east side of the island from the west side. That will determine where I live as well......

Here's some rainfall data:

Hawaii Weather Guide with Maui, Oahu, Big Island and Kauai Rainfall Maps

And here's some serious weather info for all the islands, if you're willing to dig:

CLIMATE OF HAWAII

[hunterseat]

Stay away from Waipahu with dogs.

[Vacanegro]

Originally Posted by Mikala43

Dogs are a problem, what is your budget?

Bad areas:

Lower Kalihi
Waipahu especially the Pupu Streets
Old Ewa
Waianae (Haven't been out there forevah so..
Popokulea (that's not spelled right)

The HPD has a crime map online. A quick search will turn that up.

+1 on this advice. I would add that I do not think you can find a rental that will allow two dogs. Perhaps you should rent month, leaving the dogs at home until you can buy somewhere. Most of Oahu is very dog friendly (compared to the mainland).

[HostelDweller]

Stopped for gas in Maili along Farrington Hwy. and noticed a "take out" window of the convenience store. The clerk said that after 11pm they close the doors because the housing development behind the store brought in a rough crowd. The beer fridges are locked at all times also.


It reminded me of the worst areas of Brooklyn (possibly U.S.) where you walk into a glass lobby and pick your items through glass and the clerk hands them out via a window. The window is sometimes a bullet proof glass turnstile where money is put down, spun around and you get change and product. Just some Hood trivia for you.


Thankfully, no where in Hawaii would even compare.

[SoloPilot]

Originally Posted by Mikala43

I wouldn't do China Town. Last time I was there (right before du vin closed) it was disgusting... homeless lying on the sidewalk, penis out peeing.

Maybe he forgot he's not in NYC . . ?

[Ian_Lee]

Newcomers to Oahu always look for homes on the leeward side because there are many new developments and they are generally more affordable. But:
(1) Traffic is terrible even in non-rush hour.
(2) It is exceptionally dry. Hardly any natural greens. If you live in a house or a townhouse where there is yard to be taken care of, prepare for a high water bill.
(3) On Ewa plain which used to be sugar plantation field, there are still plenty of fire ants.
(4) It is just urban sprawl. The houses are stacked up against each other with minimal side yards in between.
(5) Unlike in town where many places are accessible by foot, you need to drive to anywhere on leeward side.
(6) The mass transit construction is running out of money and may be stalled. Residents on leeward side may continue to suffer from the traffic gridlock for many many years to come.

In town, Kahala and Kaimuki are hot. Palolo and Kalihi are too seedy. Salt Lake and Makiki have too many high rises. You can't find any street parking if you have a second car. Kakaako has many new fancy $million plus condominium apartments. But is the sewage system able to handle the sudden increase for all these new households? You don't want to spend your life saving but has to smell sewage stink everyday.

Waikiki is too touristy -- it does not even have a supermarket catered to the locals. Hawaii Kai is well planned but still a long commute from work. Manoa is too wet and all those hillside residential owners worry that one day a boulder may roll down to crash their bedroom.

IMO the best place to live on the island are houses along those ridges, Makiki Height, Pacific Height, Nuuanu, Alewa Height and Kam Height etc. Cool and breezy, rain but not wet, proximity to town, no homeless people, easy traffic 24/7. Problem is usually whenever any houses put on sale at a reasonable price in these neighborhoods, they are gone in minutes.

[je4xff]

I keep reading about the Kalihi area as being seedy. Does this include the part of Kalihi St. that runs north of H1, alongside Likelike? Or just in the downtown area south of H1?

https://www.google.com/maps/@21.3367...57.8641506,14z

[Mikala43]

Originally Posted by je4xff

I keep reading about the Kalihi area as being seedy. Does this include the part of Kalihi St. that runs north of H1, alongside Likelike? Or just in the downtown area south of H1?

https://www.google.com/maps/@21.3367...57.8641506,14z

Yes, but the farther you go up the valley the less seedy it gets. It's still considered a "poor" area.

[pj737]

Originally Posted by je4xff

I keep reading about the Kalihi area as being seedy. Does this include the part of Kalihi St. that runs north of H1, alongside Likelike? Or just in the downtown area south of H1?

https://www.google.com/maps/@21.3367...57.8641506,14z

There are fairly decent pockets of homes in Kalihi but they are generally farther up north.

The homes on the south (makai) side of H-1 start getting seedy further east than the north (mauka) side of the H-1. The less desirable homes on the south side of the H-1 are generally west of Liliha Street.

But on the north side of the H-1 west of Liliha there is a very affluent demographic. Some of the nicest most expensive homes on the island are in this area as you go a little further north. This is considered the Kapalama area and is often mistaken for Kalihi (area between Likelike and Liliha Street). East of Liliha on the south side of the H-1 is considered Chinatown. South of Vineyard, there is a night and day difference between the "housing" residents on the west side of Liliha Street and the east side of Liliha. The demographics are wildly apart.

On the north side of the freeway, housing remains desirable all the way west up to about Lanakila Street. Going south from Lanakila/N School brings more poverty. But going north from Lanakila and N School street has some decent neighborhoods. And Alewa Heights (which goes further west beyond Lanakila) is a nice mix of working class families with decently kept homes (by Hawaii standards) and safe neighborhoods.

If you are alongside the Likelike (north of H-1), the east side is definitely going to be more desirable as there is a high density of low-income housing west of Likelike.

The industrial part of Kalihi (south of Dillingham and west of Waikamilo) is - by a far margin - the worst part of town.