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Old 10-23-2012, 08:36 AM
 
Location: Harrison, OH
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Just a quick thanks to Mitt Romney and Barack Obama for the debate last night, it serves as a reminder as to why I'm voting for Gary Johnson.
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Old 10-23-2012, 12:41 PM
 
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Just a quick thanks to Mitt Romney and Barack Obama for the debate last night, it serves as a reminder as to why I'm voting for Gary Johnson.
You might as well write in Brittany Spears or Richard Simmons - it would have about the same impact.
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Old 10-23-2012, 12:51 PM
 
Location: A great city, by a Great Lake!
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You might as well write in Brittany Spears or Richard Simmons - it would have about the same impact.

They couldn't be much worse than the two status quo candidates that we have to choose from right now.
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Old 10-23-2012, 05:27 PM
 
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You might as well write in Brittany Spears or Richard Simmons - it would have about the same impact.
That's a really crappy argument. If Hitler and Satan were running, I'd rather vote for someone else that would have precisely no impact.

Edit: Or just not vote.
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Old 10-23-2012, 05:44 PM
 
Location: Cleveland and Columbus OH
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I plan to vote for Obama, but I gotta say, both Mitt and Barry really are exactly the same on foreign policy... I'd love to have heard a real debate last night. So much could have been argued over many issues- Iran, China, Russia, Israel... but they just agreed with each other.
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Old 10-23-2012, 10:06 PM
 
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They couldn't be much worse than the two status quo candidates that we have to choose from right now.
Except that one of those two will be leading the nation the next four years, not Gary Johnson. 3rd party votes may make one's conscience feel better, but it will have absolutely zero impact on government... which is sort of the point of elections.
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Old 10-23-2012, 10:10 PM
 
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I plan to vote for Obama, but I gotta say, both Mitt and Barry really are exactly the same on foreign policy... I'd love to have heard a real debate last night. So much could have been argued over many issues- Iran, China, Russia, Israel... but they just agreed with each other.
I think what you mean to say is that Obama has already implemented foreign policy and Romney just agreed with what he did. It was not a matter of mutual agreement if only one man has a plan.
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Old 10-23-2012, 10:15 PM
 
Location: Cleveland and Columbus OH
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I think what you mean to say is that Obama has already implemented foreign policy and Romney just agreed with what he did. It was not a matter of mutual agreement if only one man has a plan.
Yes, I mean that in a way. But I guess I'd want to see a candidate that had different ideas about Israel or China and our relations with them. Nobody in mainstream politics has very differing opinions on these kind of matters, from what I have observed.
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Old 10-23-2012, 11:28 PM
 
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That's a really crappy argument. If Hitler and Satan were running, I'd rather vote for someone else that would have precisely no impact.

Edit: Or just not vote.
Seriously? You're even hinting at linking Romney and Obama with "Hitler and Satan"?

That's so outrageously offensive and nothing short of pathetically ignorant that it's not even worth dignifying with further comment.
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Old 10-24-2012, 12:52 AM
 
Location: :0)1 CORINTHIANS,13*"KYRIE, ELEISON"*"CHRISTE ELEISON"
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Lightbulb Obama has been lying to us since Sept. 11, 2012 just to win the election, at the cost of American lives!



White House told of militant claim two hours after Libya attack: emails | Reuters



September 11, 2012 Terrorist attack & the lies to cover it all up...



Do people in Ohio care about the fact that Obama & the administration knew within 2 hours, real time
that the attack in Benghazi was a terrorist attack?

Do they realize that the US Ambassador & other lives were lost, sadly....

That the administration knew & received requests for help, added security, but refused it, because
giving additional help would imply that their MidEast "success" was not a success,
and that it would hurt their campaign.

So, lives were lost for the sake of a campaign
Because all of it would imply Al-Qaeda (sp?) is still alive & well!! Contrary to what Obama claims.

And yet, after the attack, Obama went around saying it was because of a Muslim video, he said it on
Letterman & also lied to UN General Assembly. The administration & Obama lied to the American
people for over 2 weeks!!!

Are people in Ohio talking about this, how can people trust a man who lies over & over again!!?

Obama does not deserve to be President, he is insulting our intelligence, and American lives have
been lost because of his ignorance & selfishness!

Its more important for him to be re-elected, than to give additional help to Americans in Benghazi

Former US Ambassador to the UN John Bolton, in an interview said this was for political gain!

They also sent Susan Rice to several shows to lie about this as well.

A total disgrace!

Please tell me what are people in Ohio thinking of this very sensitive issue?



US denies security cut before Benghazi attack


US DENIES SECURITY BEFORE BENGHAZI ATTACK!




The above is the Reuters link, but it is being reported by every news outlet. This came out hours ago.



Reuters) - Officials at the White House and State Department were advised two hours after attackers assaulted the U.S. diplomatic mission in Benghazi, Libya, on September 11 that an Islamic militant group had claimed credit for the attack, official emails show.

The emails, obtained by Reuters from government sources not connected with U.S. spy agencies or the State Department and who requested anonymity, specifically mention that the Libyan group called Ansar al-Sharia had asserted responsibility for the attacks.

The brief emails also show how U.S. diplomats described the attack, even as it was still under way, to Washington.

U.S. Ambassador Christopher Stevens and three other Americans were killed in the Benghazi assault, which President Barack Obama and other U.S. officials ultimately acknowledged was a "terrorist" attack carried out by militants with suspected links to al Qaeda affiliates or sympathizers.

Administration spokesmen, including White House spokesman Jay Carney, citing an unclassified assessment prepared by the CIA, maintained for days that the attacks likely were a spontaneous protest against an anti-Muslim film.

While officials did mention the possible involvement of "extremists," they did not lay blame on any specific militant groups or possible links to al Qaeda or its affiliates until intelligence officials publicly alleged that on September 28.

There were indications that extremists with possible al Qaeda connections were involved, but also evidence that the attacks could have erupted spontaneously, they said, adding that government experts wanted to be cautious about pointing fingers prematurely.

U.S. intelligence officials have emphasized since shortly after the attack that early intelligence reporting about the attack was mixed.

Spokesmen for the White House and State Department had no immediate response to requests for comments on the emails.

MISSIVES FROM LIBYA

The records obtained by Reuters consist of three emails dispatched by the State Department's Operations Center to multiple government offices, including addresses at the White House, Pentagon, intelligence community and FBI, on the afternoon of September 11.

The first email, timed at 4:05 p.m. Washington time - or 10:05 p.m. Benghazi time, 20-30 minutes after the attack on the U.S. diplomatic mission allegedly began - carried the subject line "U.S. Diplomatic Mission in Benghazi Under Attack" and the notation "SBU", meaning "Sensitive But Unclassified."

The text said the State Department's regional security office had reported that the diplomatic mission in Benghazi was "under attack. Embassy in Tripoli reports approximately 20 armed people fired shots; explosions have been heard as well."

The message continued: "Ambassador Stevens, who is currently in Benghazi, and four ... personnel are in the compound safe haven. The 17th of February militia is providing security support."

A second email, headed "Update 1: U.S. Diplomatic Mission in Benghazi" and timed 4:54 p.m. Washington time, said that the Embassy in Tripoli had reported that "the firing at the U.S. Diplomatic Mission in Benghazi had stopped and the compound had been cleared." It said a "response team" was at the site attempting to locate missing personnel.

A third email, also marked SBU and sent at 6:07 p.m. Washington time, carried the subject line: "Update 2: Ansar al-Sharia Claims Responsibility for Benghazi Attack."

The message reported: "Embassy Tripoli reports the group claimed responsibility on Facebook and Twitter and has called for an attack on Embassy Tripoli."

While some information identifying recipients of this message was redacted from copies of the messages obtained by Reuters, a government source said that one of the addresses to which the message was sent was the White House Situation Room, the president's secure command post.

Other addressees included intelligence and military units as well as one used by the FBI command center, the source said.

It was not known what other messages were received by agencies in Washington from Libya that day about who might have been behind the attacks.

Intelligence experts caution that initial reports from the scene of any attack or disaster are often inaccurate.

By the morning of September 12, the day after the Benghazi attack, Reuters reported that there were indications that members of both Ansar al-Sharia, a militia based in the Benghazi area, and al Qaeda in the Islamic Maghreb, the North African affiliate of al Qaeda's faltering central command, may have been involved in organizing the attacks.

One U.S. intelligence official said that during the first classified briefing about Benghazi given to members of Congress, officials "carefully laid out the full range of sparsely available information, relying on the best analysis available at the time."

The official added, however, that the initial analysis of the attack that was presented to legislators was mixed.

"Briefers said extremists were involved in attacks that appeared spontaneous, there may have been a variety of motivating factors, and possible links to groups such as (al Qaeda in the Islamic Maghreb and Ansar al-Sharia) were being looked at closely," the official said.

(Additional reporting by Susan Cornwell; Editing by Mary Milliken and Jim Loney)


Comments (24)
amos033 wrote:
If this report is true,then the President, Secretary of State and Susan Rice ought to resign immediately. Remember, we impeached Clinton because he lied to us.

Oct 23, 2012 9:33pm EDT -- Report as abuse
js2012 wrote:
I want to know why Reuters is keeping this important piece of news so obscure and which has also affected global politics so much? This is enough for a few sackings in the State Dept and elsewhere.

Oct 23, 2012 10:00pm EDT -- Report as abuse
JB1111 wrote:
This just keeps getting worse.

We know Obama lies.

But why lie about this for weeks and weeks.

I am done with Obama.

There is NO TRUST left.

Oct 23, 2012 10:18pm EDT --

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