Is Columbus approaching the same level as Cincinnati and Cleveland. (tax, to live in)

[1watertiger]

^ the satellite views show Columbus metro to be half the size of cleve and cincy. (at least in terms of urban/suburban/builtout areas that have lights). and please jbc don't try to tell us cleve and cincy have more lightning bugs.

[motorman]

Originally Posted by 1watertiger

^ the satellite views show Columbus metro to be half the size of cleve and cincy. (at least in terms of urban/suburban/builtout areas that have lights). and please jbc don't try to tell us cleve and cincy have more lightning bugs.

What several Columbus boosters can't handle is that those nighttime satellite pictures negate misleading discussions that minimize the actual size and extent of Cincinnati and Cleveland, minus any political boundaries.

And, as these Cbus boosters pontificate about "city-propers, MSA's, CSA's," all they're doing is exhibiting their own myopia . Lastly, when these boosters criticize the "rampant sprawl between Cincy/Dayton or Cleve/Akron-Canton," yet (at the same time) they laud the "remarkable growth of Central Ohio," they're really losing it.

[motorman]

Originally Posted by db108108

...And on the Cin-Day and NEO stuff. Two hard declining central cities (Cincinnati/Dayton, Cleveland/Akron) surrounded by miles and miles of suburbia isn't exactly a bragging point, nor all that unique. I'm not implying that Columbus is unique, but to promote agglomerations like Cin-Day and NEO as reasons why those two areas are better and more unique than Columbus is foolish.

Within your own confined Cbus Smoke And Mirrors environs, are you not trying too hard to denigrate those other two-most venerated and cultured Ohio cities?

Needless to say, the high-culture confrontations that routinely erupt between The Cleve and The 'Nati don't include Cbus. Nor do Cleveland's and Cincinnati's battles of downtown superiority, professional sports, and night life include Columbus--but, again, all that might change, if Columbus so wills it. Perhaps not overnight, but neither in the distant future.

Without doubt, Columbus, Ohio has evolved into a major Midwestern city experiencing forward-motion and positive-change. But, then again, so have its two larger, more cultured Ohio rivals--in ways that ought to make this capitol city blink. (If you're from Cleveland or Cincinnati, you know what's meant.) Two "hard declining central cities"?? Oh, yeah, okay...but only in this particular Cbus Smoke And Mirrors wet-dreamer's imagination.

[jbcmh81]

Originally Posted by 1watertiger

^ the satellite views show Columbus metro to be half the size of cleve and cincy. (at least in terms of urban/suburban/builtout areas that have lights). and please jbc don't try to tell us cleve and cincy have more lightning bugs.

All you've proven is that the built environment in the Columbus metro is smaller, which that isn't even being argued. This is probably why the Urban Area of Columbus is the most dense of the 3. It's packed into a smaller area.

[jbcmh81]

Originally Posted by motorman

What several Columbus boosters can't handle is that those nighttime satellite pictures negate misleading discussions that minimize the actual size and extent of Cincinnati and Cleveland, minus any political boundaries.

And, as these Cbus boosters pontificate about "city-propers, MSA's, CSA's," all they're doing is exhibiting their own myopia . Lastly, when these boosters criticize the "rampant sprawl between Cincy/Dayton or Cleve/Akron-Canton," yet (at the same time) they laud the "remarkable growth of Central Ohio," they're really losing it.

Columbus boosters don't make up borders. Without the census designations, the term MSA, of which you want Cincinnati-Dayton to be combined into, doesn't exist. Yet you want to throw out those very designations to declare a combined MSA. So basically, you don't want to follow the rules and have determined that the definitions are arbitrary, yet strangely want the actual definition to apply to Cin-Day. You can't have it both ways.

BTW, is there any reason that we have to have this same discussion in every comparison thread?

[INsync3]

Originally Posted by 1watertiger

^ the satellite views show Columbus metro to be half the size of cleve and cincy. (at least in terms of urban/suburban/builtout areas that have lights). and please jbc don't try to tell us cleve and cincy have more lightning bugs.

Hahahahaha that's hilarious, and he would say something like that

[motorman]

Originally Posted by jbcmh81

Columbus boosters don't make up borders. Without the census designations, the term MSA, of which you want Cincinnati-Dayton to be combined into, doesn't exist. Yet you want to throw out those very designations to declare a combined MSA. So basically, you don't want to follow the rules and have determined that the definitions are arbitrary, yet strangely want the actual definition to apply to Cin-Day. You can't have it both ways.

I strongly suggest you reread my post and somehow realize that you misinterpreted my remarks...

I emphasized that we focus on what satellites actually see at night when they fly over Ohio and not become preoccupied with artificial boundaries that minimize what the blobs of light truly are. In contrast, you continue to insist that we view these revealing nighttime photos with all these boundaries in place in order to downplay what's seen below.

BTW, is there any reason that we have to have this same discussion in every comparison thread?

Yes there is and the reason's childishly simple: if you keep asking the same questions, you'll keep getting the same answers.

[1watertiger]

Originally Posted by jbcmh81

All you've proven is that the built environment in the Columbus metro is smaller, which that isn't even being argued. This is probably why the Urban Area of Columbus is the most dense of the 3. It's packed into a smaller area.

false. Columbus 3600 people/sq. mile vs. Cleveland 5100 people/sq. mile. franklin 2100/sq mile vs Cuyahoga 2800/sq. mile.

[1watertiger]

to op's question. NO Columbus is not on the same level as Cleveland or cincy. not on the the state , national or world level. period.

[scioto]

to op's question. NO Columbus is not on the same level as Cleveland or cincy. not on the the state , national or world level. period.
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I believe the question was approaching the same level, not already on the same level.

"Is Columbus approaching the same level as Cincinnati and Cleveland."

This whole thread has turned into nothing more than Cleveland/Cincinnati is so much better than Columbus.