[MyNameIsBellaMia]

Originally Posted by TwinbrookNine

As a rule of thumb, I accept no "scientific " anything from politicians or journalists. Because, first off (first hand personal observation), those people go into those fields because HS science befuddled them. Science just wasn't their thing. One must accept that as a "fact of life." It's just the way it is. Secondly, politics and money transfers of massive proportions, direct and indirect, are clearly influencing any and all involved directly in these things. So, for all intents and purposes, forget the word "science." "Feelings" votes, and bank accounts are NOT science.


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AMEN, Brother!

[Seacove]

The positive to all of this is it's happening in a red state, so they are getting the results they voted for. They don't think fracking is a problem? Then they shouldn't complain about the earthquakes. If you make a choice, you have to live with the results.

Originally Posted by Johnhw2

I agree with subsidized earthquake damage insurance if needed in addition to traditional insurance clauses in this part of the country.

So you break it and the country is supposed to fix it? It's one thing if it is purely a fault, but if fracking is causing it and the state voters support fracking, then the state voters should pay for it, not the country. You vote for it, you break it, you fix it.

[eddie gein]

Originally Posted by TwinbrookNine

As a rule of thumb, I accept no "scientific " anything from politicians or journalists. Because, first off (first hand personal observation), those people go into those fields because HS science befuddled them. Science just wasn't their thing. One must accept that as a "fact of life." It's just the way it is. Secondly, politics and money transfers of massive proportions, direct and indirect, are clearly influencing any and all involved directly in these things. So, for all intents and purposes, forget the word "science." "Feelings" votes, and bank accounts are NOT science.

Is it ok when scientists come up with something scientific and publish a scientific article in a scientific journal.
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Sharp increase in central Oklahoma seismicity since 2008 induced by massive wastewater injection | Science

[StillwaterTownie]

Originally Posted by bawac34618

Another reason why if I didn't have to live in Oklahoma, I would have been out yesterday. It's hard enough dealing with tornado season every spring, but these earthquakes are getting stronger and more frequent. Makes me worry that earthquakes like this morning are going to become a normal thing with even stronger, more damaging ones at times.

Actually, the earthquakes have slacked off in frequency since this spring. Since that time I hadn't been sensing any earthquakes until the one on Saturday morning suddenly came up. It was the most frightening earthquake I ever been through before. I was laying in bed saying to myself, "Please stop. Don't get worse."

One thing unusual is that two 5.0+ earthquakes during the same year hasn't happened before.

[rodentraiser]

I was just reading something about Kansas having had many new earthquakes because of fracking and in Kansas, they made the oil companies put their water way down deeper into the ground. Their earthquakes practically ceased after that.

From a former Californian, if you're in a large earthquake, don't do as someone else said and get under a table. The table can fall over and leave you vulnerable to falling debris. Get away from any windows. Try to find a doorway without a door and get under that. Strap your water heater to the wall and bolt your house to the foundation. Make sure you know how to shut off your gas and water. Just those things right there will help you a lot in a large quake. It wouldn't hurt to bolt things like tall bookcases and hutches to the walls, either.

Make sure your kitchen cupboards are locking when you close them, upper and lower, so the doors can't open and spill out their contents. Keep shoes and a flashlight by your bed so you can get them fast. Don't be next to any sliding doors, closet or otherwise. Those can come off the tracks and fall out.

Have fun, you guys!

[StillwaterTownie]

Picture frames and vases didn't fall to the floor at my house from the Pawnee quake, so gotta keep hoping the earthquakes don't get more intense. The earthquakes underneath and very close to Stillwater have for the most part subsided this year. Hopefully, things will continue that way. My guess is the next big earthquake will take place to the WSW of Perry. That area has been one of the hottest spots for earthquakes in Oklahoma.

[bawac34618]

Originally Posted by rodentraiser

I was just reading something about Kansas having had many new earthquakes because of fracking and in Kansas, they made the oil companies put their water way down deeper into the ground. Their earthquakes practically ceased after that.

Problem is that Oklahoma is so Republican that getting that accomplished will be all but impossible. And sure, the people here are fed up with earthquakes, but all Republicans have to do is say they are God's candidate, oppose abortion, and loathe the LGBT community and most Oklahomans will line up to vote for them, even if they are voting against their best interests.

[Threestep2]

Originally Posted by bawac34618

Problem is that Oklahoma is so Republican that getting that accomplished will be all but impossible. And sure, the people here are fed up with earthquakes, but all Republicans have to do is say they are God's candidate, oppose abortion, and loathe the LGBT community and most Oklahomans will line up to vote for them, even if they are voting against their best interests.

As long as you are not getting any younger, your truck is getting older und you will tell us about Oklahoma's incorrect political situation - have a pleasant Labor Day!

[StillwaterTownie]

Originally Posted by bawac34618

Problem is that Oklahoma is so Republican that getting that accomplished will be all but impossible. And sure, the people here are fed up with earthquakes, but all Republicans have to do is say they are God's candidate, oppose abortion, and loathe the LGBT community and most Oklahomans will line up to vote for them, even if they are voting against their best interests.

Yeah, it will be interesting to see how Oklahomans will vote against their best interests in November. It will be important to vote yes on the state question for criminal justice reform to take the pressure off of overcrowded state prisons. Those charged with drug possession alone will always be charged with a misdemeanor, subject to no more than a $1000 fine and a year in the county jail. Also it won't be as easy to go to prison over shoplifting. Current laws explain why Oklahoma is the most imprisoned state for women.

[nightbird47]

Interesting update on the quake. The USGS has determined a previously unknown fault running through the oil field area was reawakened by the seventeen injection wells. They are also warning it VERY likely there will be at least one other 4.O aftershocks which will hit the whole central OK area. The seventeen wells are being shut and will remain that way, but the industry is not happy. It appears the loss in production will hit the production in the larger area and lead to less production in the rest. They are of course thinking dollars, not human needs so should be shusshed.

So we have a new fault which produces 4.0 quakes and the risk for more. And they urge schools to begin the drop and roll drills in schools I grew up with in California. Might practice at home too. I lived with quakes too long to put large heavy things on walls so they could fall on you.

Who wants to bet the oil companies will continue to whine and say they have to find a way around it. Soooooo glad I'm leaving.