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Old 07-09-2018, 06:27 PM
 
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FEMA has been utilizing hotels for decades in the aftermath of natural disasters to house people who lose their dwellings. It's fascinating however that it's suddenly an issue when it's solely Hispanics who are involved...

Kyle: Go to the US Territories here in City-Data, so you can see how this person Branal, and a person by the name of Miu, are demeaning the citizens of Puerto Rico/Americans. I have reason to belief they are the same person, because they cover each others back. One speaks for the other.........
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Old 07-09-2018, 06:56 PM
 
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Kyle: Go to the US Territories here in City-Data, so you can see how this person Branal, and a person by the name of Miu, are demeaning the citizens of Puerto Rico/Americans. I have reason to belief they are the same person, because they cover each others back. One speaks for the other.........
sasie, sometimes two or more individuals share the same opinion and reinforce each other.

Nonetheless, it's lazy to toss all this off as racist. What happened to Puerto Rico goes far deeper if people look into what was going on there financially years prior to the hurricanes, and the various players involved. You should be concerned. Actually, everyone should be.

And some other stuff as well. But as oceangaia said, that's for another discussion.

Anyway, for the people, it was not a good idea for Puerto Rico to maintain status as a "territory" of the US. Had it become independent or become a state, it would have been much better off, either way. I hope this is a lesson for other territories of the US.

https://www.zerohedge.com/news/2018-...er-puerto-rico

And that's just the tip of the iceberg.

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Old 07-09-2018, 07:30 PM
 
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They should be allowed to stay until their power gets turned back on. Want them out? Get the GD power working!
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Old 07-10-2018, 05:27 AM
 
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They should be allowed to stay until their power gets turned back on. Want them out? Get the GD power working!
But their power grid sucks.
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Old 07-10-2018, 11:52 AM
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They should be allowed to stay until their power gets turned back on. Want them out? Get the GD power working!
But their power grid was dilapidated and not well maintained before the storm. And PR was ill managed and heavily in debt. It's not the US government's job to fix how the island is managed and give them a functioning power grid. The island has to be reorganized and their priorities sorted out. But in the meantime, they are American citizens, so they should just relocate to the mainland and find jobs and places to rent.

And what happens when the next big hurricane hits? Why bother fixing the entire island if it sits in the middle of hurricane alley and they get a bad storm every 20 years or so? It's just not worth it to repair the entire island if another hurricane is going to eventually devastate it again. Focus on repairing and investing in the tourist areas and wherever the economy is healthy.

Being in the middle of hurricane alley is one of the reasons that PR isn't as developed or as desirable a destination as Hawaii.
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Old 07-10-2018, 12:17 PM
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Kyle: Go to the US Territories here in City-Data, so you can see how this person Branal, and a person by the name of Miu, are demeaning the citizens of Puerto Rico/Americans. I have reason to belief they are the same person, because they cover each others back. One speaks for the other.........
Did you not read the NYT article that Branal posted? Most of the PR on the island are living in homes that aren't up to the same building codes as on the US mainland. They also aren't the official homeowners and only squatters. FEMA doesn't give money to squatters. And these PR people also don't have any homeowners insurance on their homes.

One of the reasons that PR will never be a US state anytime soon is because their living standards are so much below the standards on the US mainland and the people who live there have not made any effort to improve their living conditions.

However, PR is an extremely cheap place to live and perfect for anyone who desires to live off the grid and drop out of mainstream society. And they are also lucky that they don't get snow, so never have to worry about heating bills. But no place on Earth is perfect.
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Old 07-10-2018, 12:37 PM
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So I assume PR's do not have home insurance and flood insurance?! This would have paid for rebuilding. I have a good friend (Hispanic)in Houston that went through hurricane Harvey last year, they had to be rescued by boat. They had regular home insurance and flood insurance and everything was paid for. Home is rebuilt, new furniture etc. They never worried. This is how normal people live.
I think that since they aren't required to have home insurance and flood insurance, they just don't buy it. And in America, the only homeowners who are required to carry this sort of insurance are people who are still paying a mortgage for their property. The insurance protects the banks' investment in the homes they lend money on.

And if you don't legally own the property, no insurance company is going to sell you a insurance policy AND FEMA is not going to help out as much.

PR has got to get its people and who owns the various properties on the island in order.
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Old 07-10-2018, 12:53 PM
 
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Trump ignored the needs of PR from the start. The added cost now will probably be worse than if he hadn't discriminated against those citizens in the first place.
My best friend here moved from PR (before hurricane) he said the government there is all corrupt and said he isnt surprised by how things went down. With that being said, he said his family said things are good enough to visit them. I was in San Juan earlier this year, there were signs of hurricane damage, but everywhere we went had power, etc. Locals said San Juan is decent now, but other prts of PR are still bad.
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Old 07-10-2018, 12:55 PM
 
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I think that since they aren't required to have home insurance and flood insurance, they just don't buy it. And in America, the only homeowners who are required to carry this sort of insurance are people who are still paying a mortgage for their property. The insurance protects the banks' investment in the homes they lend money on.

And if you don't legally own the property, no insurance company is going to sell you a insurance policy AND FEMA is not going to help out as much.

PR has got to get its people and who owns the various properties on the island in order.
Well we were in an earthquake in 1971 in California. We had "renters" insurance and it paid for everything we lost. No need to own a home. Also everyone in this country has home owners insurance, mortgaged or not. You don't want to lose your home and have no money to get another. Yikes.
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Old 07-10-2018, 12:56 PM
 
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Did you not read the NYT article that Branal posted? Most of the PR on the island are living in homes that aren't up to the same building codes as on the US mainland. They also aren't the official homeowners and only squatters. FEMA doesn't give money to squatters. And these PR people also don't have any homeowners insurance on their homes.

One of the reasons that PR will never be a US state anytime soon is because their living standards are so much below the standards on the US mainland and the people who live there have not made any effort to improve their living conditions.

However, PR is an extremely cheap place to live and perfect for anyone who desires to live off the grid and drop out of mainstream society. And they are also lucky that they don't get snow, so never have to worry about heating bills. But no place on Earth is perfect.
I see what you're trying to do--posting facts...but I think she operates 100% on emotion.
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