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I don't think any of the child-free posters ever said selfish was a desirable attribute trait.
What we're trying to say is at least we admit we're too selfish to have kids. That's better than having kids despite being selfish.
Instead of patting yourselves on the back for being so wise to recognize this and so big as to own up to a fairly glaring character flaw, time might be better spent working on, I don't know, remedying the flaw, and work on being less selfish (and, no, working on being less selfish doesn't imply having children, either. One can choose not to be a parent and STILL not be a selfish person). Whether or not I wanted kids, I certainly wouldn't be running around wearing, "I'm just too selfish" as a badge of honor, or be super smug about my ability to recognize that I'm selfish. I'd work on improving my character overall.
Grow up. Selfishness (and loudly and proudly acknowledging it) is the hallmark of immaturity. Mature people (and their decisions, whatever they be) get taken seriously. Immature people don't, and selfish people are generally stunted in the maturity department, to say the least.
This thread is absurd. I applaud the Parenting & Relationship Regulars for banging your head against the wall with two certain CF'ers. I gave up a LONG time ago with one of them and recently with the other. There will never be understanding from them.
I might show some respect if he did. The parents here have said over and over that we don't care if these "CF" posters ever have kids or not. They return the favor by telling US that WE don't get it. Give me a break.
I wonder what kind of reception they thought they'd get in a PARENTING forum?
Don't lump me in with "they." I don't have my own kids. That was a conscious decision, supported by my doctor by way of tubal ligation surgery. I realize that most parents -do- get why some of us choose not to have kids, once we're adults.
And by adult, I don't mean a chronological age. I mean a sense of emotional, mental, and physiological maturity that teenagers don't possess, because their brains and bodies aren't done growing yet.
Don't lump me in with "they." I don't have my own kids. That was a conscious decision, supported by my doctor by way of tubal ligation surgery. I realize that most parents -do- get why some of us choose not to have kids, once we're adults.
And by adult, I don't mean a chronological age. I mean a sense of emotional, mental, and physiological maturity that teenagers don't possess, because their brains and bodies aren't done growing yet.
I'm not, believe me. Do you mind if I ask how old you were, and if you were or had been married?
Well I'm 19 (almost 20) and I've known since 14 that I didn't want kids. That's 5 years. Almost the same time frame. And I didn't change my mind.
Yea, you also haven't lived either. I'm 25 and I know I still have a lot to learn.
Did you take on college, full-time employment, paying rent/bills from the age of 14-19? I hardly view them as being the same time frame.
If your decision remains the same in the next 10 years or so then thats excellent. But life is going to throw you curves and your life might head in a direction you never thought it would travel.
I don't want kids right now. Will I eventually? I honestly don't know. But I'm not going to say I'm never having children. Am I going to get a vasectomy at age 18? "No offense" but thats just dumb. Use condoms.
Yea, you also haven't lived either. I'm 25 and I know I still have a lot to learn.
Did you take on college, full-time employment, paying rent/bills from the age of 14-19? I hardly view them as being the same time frame.
If your decision remains the same in the next 10 years or so then thats excellent. But life is going to throw you curves and your life might head in a direction you never thought it would travel.
I don't want kids right now. Will I eventually? I honestly don't know. But I'm not going to say I'm never having children. Am I going to get a vasectomy at age 18? "No offense" but thats just dumb. Use condoms.
No, that's actually smart that a young lad wants to get a vasectomy. A very wise decision.
I'm not, believe me. Do you mind if I ask how old you were, and if you were or had been married?
I turned 50 two weeks ago. I've been married 20 years, to my one and only husband. I got my tubes tied 5 years after our wedding, because hubby was a wuss and wouldn't let anyone touch his junk with a knife
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