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Old 03-22-2012, 07:51 AM
 
Location: Cary NC
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But they are both.
Yes! "You can give them your love but not your thoughts". Of course we can and should give them our thoughts as we should respect theirs. Some guidance is needed when you are raising kids.
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Old 03-22-2012, 08:55 AM
 
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Yes! "You can give them your love but not your thoughts". Of course we can and should give them our thoughts as we should respect theirs. Some guidance is needed when you are raising kids.
I think he means, you can't make them think the same way you do.

I like how this thread is making so many parents feel threatened. Like, "What do you mean I can't mold them into a mini-me? Since when?" lol
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Old 03-22-2012, 09:43 AM
 
Location: Hyrule
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I didn't see any mention of the crap you hand down to the poor little things from your genes. lol
Sometimes traits don't have to be taught, poor little munchkins. Just like their daddy. lol
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Old 03-22-2012, 10:07 AM
 
Location: here
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Yes! "You can give them your love but not your thoughts". Of course we can and should give them our thoughts as we should respect theirs. Some guidance is needed when you are raising kids.
Of course you can share your thoughts with them, but you can't expect them to think the same way you do.

I find the whole premise of this thread disturbing. Do people really think they "own" their children?
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Old 03-22-2012, 12:58 PM
 
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The point isn't that you can't share your thoughts. The point is that you can't force them to have the same thoughts and ideas as you do. It's saying that you should respect them as individuals. Approach them from the standpoint that they are ALREADY individuals; you don't have to create them. Sure, you guide them, teach them, help them. But they aren't there to serve you and your dreams, they're there to live out their own.
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Old 03-22-2012, 06:59 PM
 
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The point isn't that you can't share your thoughts. The point is that you can't force them to have the same thoughts and ideas as you do. It's saying that you should respect them as individuals. Approach them from the standpoint that they are ALREADY individuals; you don't have to create them. Sure, you guide them, teach them, help them. But they aren't there to serve you and your dreams, they're there to live out their own.
Exactly. I saw the title of a book at a bookstore. It went along these lines "Living life is about creating yourself."

I can proudly say that I am not like the people who raised me. My mom is truly grateful for that.
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Old 03-22-2012, 07:41 PM
 
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Other than religious fanatics (and I'm a Christian, so I don't refer to people of faith in this way unless they are truly on the lunatic fringe), I've never known anyone who believed children were property.
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Old 03-23-2012, 07:26 AM
 
Location: Westchester County
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Of course you can share your thoughts with them, but you can't expect them to think the same way you do.

I find the whole premise of this thread disturbing. Do people really think they "own" their children?

The word own is a poor choice. However as long as they are living under my roof they will live by my rules/values, and when they come of age they will be prepared to move out on their own with their own set of values which they picked up from me. Its quite simple.
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Old 03-23-2012, 11:04 AM
 
Location: Brooklyn New York
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I owned my sons till the were 18. I now borrow them from time to time.
They are now 28
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Old 03-23-2012, 11:48 AM
 
Location: Grosse Ile Michigan
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Bah!

I pay for them. I own them. Unfortunately once they are teens, it is kind of hard to sell them to get a return on your investment. Sell them off early. Less investmeent and a better return.
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