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Old 12-29-2013, 10:39 AM
 
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Kids that age think parents are stupid and don't care about them. Also their brains are not fully developed (until something like age 25).

Anyway at around age 26, suddenly the parents start to become smarter (in the eyes of the kids). And when the kids have their own kids, they suddenly realize all the strict punishments were because their parents love them.

Anyway don't worry about it. You love them and they will eventually realize it. Actions speak louder than words!

P.S. There are a couple of kids in my neighborhood who do not have a dad. They are totally wild and most people around here feel they need a good strong male influence to give them a swift kick in the rear!
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Old 12-29-2013, 10:55 AM
 
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Just love your kids, be there for them, give them a hug every now then, and have some father and sons outings. Also try to establish personal individual relationship with each of them, they are all different people and have their own personalities. good luck
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Old 12-29-2013, 11:04 AM
 
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Kids that age think parents are stupid and don't care about them. Also their brains are not fully developed (until something like age 25).

Anyway at around age 26, suddenly the parents start to become smarter (in the eyes of the kids). And when the kids have their own kids, they suddenly realize all the strict punishments were because their parents love them.

Anyway don't worry about it. You love them and they will eventually realize it. Actions speak louder than words!

P.S. There are a couple of kids in my neighborhood who do not have a dad. They are totally wild and most people around here feel they need a good strong male influence to give them a swift kick in the rear!
Not always. As a 40 year old parent I have come to realize that my parents didn't always handle discipline and other parenting issues the best way. What the op described should not be considered normal or acceptable.
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Old 12-29-2013, 11:11 AM
 
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Just love your kids, be there for them, give them a hug every now then, and have some father and sons outings. Also try to establish personal individual relationship with each of them, they are all different people and have their own personalities. good luck

Great advice. But I think that train has already left the station.

Instead of trying to mend bridges with his sons, OP is apparently looking for online support for his harsh approach to parenting.

Why he brought up slapping his four year son on the face instead of teaching him not to put his fingers in his mouth by example and encouragement is beyond me.

One thing I've always found fascinating is how people who hit others often seem bewildered by the response they get in return for their approach to "love."

Not that he shouldn't get onboard with the hugs and father-son outings. But I suspect it will be too little, too late, and too hard for OP to change his M.O.
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Old 12-29-2013, 11:13 AM
 
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...What the op described should not be considered normal or acceptable.

To you perhaps. To me it sounds perfectly fine.

As a matter of fact, I feel kids are not getting enough discipline these days - could use more. They behaved a LOT better when more people spanked them!
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Old 12-29-2013, 11:16 AM
 
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No less than top grades?

And what was there punishment for bringing home a 'B'?

Slapping a 4 year old for typical 4 year old behavior and expecting "no less than top grades" are sure symptoms of parenting ignorance. You've obviously done worse all their lives for that one son to make that remark to his grandmother.
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Old 12-29-2013, 11:18 AM
 
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To you perhaps. To me it sounds perfectly fine.

As a matter of fact, I feel kids are not getting enough discipline these days - could use more. They behaved a LOT better when more people spanked them!
Slapping a 4 year old in the face for doing something all 4year olds do? The son made his view of his father perfectly clear. If that is what you are going for...
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Old 12-29-2013, 11:37 AM
 
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The fact that the OP continually reinvents himself only to post versions of the very same question again and again regarding strict, emotionally absent father and any affection at all being a feminine trait coming from his mother or the mother of his son(s) tells me this poster and his posts might be better suited to the mental health forum than the parenting forum.
yah
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Old 12-29-2013, 01:01 PM
 
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were you raising kids or robots?
Impeccable citizens, I hope. I've seen what happens to kids of relaxed and permissive parents.
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Old 12-29-2013, 01:02 PM
 
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One can have high expectations for their children and still show love and caring. When was the last time you told any of your sons you were proud of them, gave them a hug, or just said "I love you." Perhaps it's time to start.
It's not my style to do those things, their mother already does plenty of that. She babied them a lot when they were kids.
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