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If I'm "all in a tizzy" simply because I am engaging in this discussion, albeit with an opposing viewpoint, so are you and everyone else who is posting.
If you think having an opposing point of view is weird, I feel sorry for you.
Read what you've typed and you may find your hang ups. You clearly have them
You really are in a tizzy over a chat with random strangers on the internet. It's rather humorous. You're extremely defensive. I can practically see the steam pouring out of your posts.
I never said having an opposing view was weird. Little reading comprehension and not making crap up would help you out in life. I said it was weird that you're in a tizzy over a random chat with random strangers. I feel like I need popcorn and cold beverage to read your posts. I'm waiting for the Michael Jackson and Obama memes to come out. LOL
Read what you've typed and you may find your hang ups. You clearly have them
You really are in a tizzy over a chat with random strangers on the internet. It's rather humorous. You're extremely defensive. I can practically see the steam pouring out of your posts.
I never said having an opposing view was weird. Little reading comprehension and not making crap up would help you out in life. I said it was weird that you're in a tizzy over a random chat with random strangers. I feel like I need popcorn and cold beverage to read your posts. I'm waiting for the Michael Jackson and Obama memes to come out. LOL
And stuff like this makes me think that instead of trying to remotely understand where she's coming from, you are trying to provoke her because she has become your conversational opponent...and that isn't having a constructive dialogue in an intelligent setting, that's playing silly troll games because you're in a forum.
She only got defensive when no one wanted to understand where she was coming from and started calling her a prude and going all ad hominem on her.
She has concerns about what porn does to the women involved, and how it influences men's attitudes towards women in general. So a child in her home, out of respect for her wishes and rules, would not be allowed to view it. She would do her best to make sure they did not. I don't think that's really a shocking stance to take on the matter. No one said anybody has to agree, but for crying out loud, it's not hard to at least understand. It's not a "hangup." It's a valid set of beliefs based on some pretty reasonable logic. You don't have to agree, but trying to act as though she is stupid, crazy, a prude, has "hangups"...you're discrediting yourself, not her.
Me, I expect my sons will look at some porn although I'm not always comfortable with it, I do have to accept that my children are becoming men and developing a male sexuality, it is what it is. If one of them hung a large poster of some graphic nude on a wall in their bedroom, I'd be offended and pull it down and throw it out. The line where I demand a little respect is in discretion. That's my line. It's my house. In her house, she gets to draw the lines and then enforce them to her best.
If you have concerns about what's in food and are selective in what you stock your kitchen with, are you some ridiculous person with "hangups?" I think certain music and styles of clothing are trashy and awful and would discourage my sons from adopting those styles based on my opinions, is that a "hangup?" We all try to guide our kids in what we think is best.
"Prude" isn't an ad hominem attack for the last time!
Jeeze louise.
As for food - If you're a vegan... you're a vegan, That's not an ad hominem attack.
And yes, conveying one's hang-ups onto one's children is... exactly that.
Forget the confusion of the male-female issue here. Its a distraction from... the hang-up.
Do gay parents get all het up about their kid (says he's gay) looking at gay porn...?
In the end, lets hope the teenager in question isn't humiliated, condemned, subject to ad hominem attacks, or ridiculed for something natural and normal.
I would say from a critical thinking point of view, ad hominem could be used as a prude or Vegan note.
I.e.
if calling someone a Prude in order to dismiss their argument would be an attack of the person, instead of the argument.
just saying
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Originally Posted by bg7
"Prude" isn't an ad hominem attack for the last time!
Jeeze louise.
As for food - If you're a vegan... you're a vegan, That's not an ad hominem attack.
And yes, conveying one's hang-ups onto one's children is... exactly that.
Forget the confusion of the male-female issue here. Its a distraction from... the hang-up.
Do gay parents get all het up about their kid (says he's gay) looking at gay porn...?
In the end, lets hope the teenager in question isn't humiliated, condemned, subject to ad hominem attacks, or ridiculed for something natural and normal.
We just found out that we're going to have a little boy in a few months :-)
I was thinking about this exact topic the day i found out the sex of the baby....hehe...then i thought back about my own feelings and experiences, and decided that i will be doing the following, when my son is 13 or 14 years old (or earlier depending on the situation):
I would anonymously order online and have delivered a sex toy to our house (like a fleshlight or something), addressed to him and pretend that i don't know who the package is from; I'd make sure he takes delivery of the package or it is left unopened of course until he wants to open it privately, and just let him be 'HUMAN'! I know i would have appreciated that as a young teenager back then....
We just found out that we're going to have a little boy in a few months :-)
I was thinking about this exact topic the day i found out the sex of the baby....hehe...then i thought back about my own feelings and experiences, and decided that i will be doing the following, when my son is 13 or 14 years old (or earlier depending on the situation):
I would anonymously order online and have delivered a sex toy to our house (like a fleshlight or something), addressed to him and pretend that i don't know who the package is from; I'd make sure he takes delivery of the package or it is left unopened of course until he wants to open it privately, and just let him be 'HUMAN'! I know i would have appreciated that as a young teenager back then....
Is that Weird? (i guess....probably...)
I know your intentions are good but do not do that. He will find his own 'toys' or use what he has around until he has his own place. It starts the minute they get into middle school and hair begins to appear in places that it didn't before. They like privacy and they deserve some...with reasonable limits.
Here is MY question...WHY was the O/P mom cleaning her son's room in the first place?? I taught my son to sort his laundry at age 8. He learned by doing and had to wear PINK underwear and sox briefly when he got lazy and put red shirts in with whites. I never cleaned his room after I saw the hair growing in new places, either. Pubescent boys have their own 'stench' for a few years. If you want to help him out, teach him about his body BEFORE he gets to that age and buy him some deodorants and body soaps. He will figure out the rest.
I'm sure the majority do but not every single last one of them.
The majority of people have looked at it at some point in their lives. I wouldn't say that all people are avid viewers of it though. I do think that girls tend to watch it as much as boys as well, contrary to popular belief.
The majority of people have looked at it at some point in their lives. I wouldn't say that all people are avid viewers of it though. I do think that girls tend to watch it as much as boys as well, contrary to popular belief.
You think wrong.
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