Is it shameful that I don't have kids?

[Anika783]

Originally Posted by Marc Paolella

Unless you are happily married to a committed partner who also shares the desire to have kids, have moneyto pay for them, and plan to raise them personally without day care or other institutional stunt doubles, then your clock should tick tock tick tock and no child should be had.

Now there's a height of hubris.

[Marc Paolella]

Originally Posted by Anika783

Now there's a height of hubris.

Not hubris. Logic. Reason. Concern for kids, not the egos of people who don't have the good sense to make a concrete plan to only have kids when there is: 1) Mommy 2)Daddy 3)Money 4)Personal commitment to full time love, attention, teaching, guidance, and care.


They are not pets. They are not pieces of property through whom to live vicariously when one's own life is empty and in need of an ego boost. They are independent humans whose brain development takes many years and who need constant personal presence and love and attention from a parent. Not being dumped in a mob of equally abused and abandoned tots in a Hunger Games day care survival scenario. And playing an horrific mind game where we say that this is their opportunity to be "socialized". Total BS. They don't need socialization, they need mommy 24/7 from 0-5 and after that mommy or daddy 24/7.


Only women can provide the maternal love that is vital for the successful early development of human beings. They are irreplaceable, especially early in life. Not men. Not the State. Not day care. Not institutions. Not other kids. MOM!


We need to go back, we're not doing it right. That's why we have kids who can't even figure out their freakin' gender. It's getting ridiculous.

[Bungalove]

Originally Posted by Marc Paolella

Not hubris. Logic. Reason. Concern for kids, not the egos of people who don't have the good sense to make a concrete plan to only have kids when there is: 1) Mommy 2)Daddy 3)Money 4)Personal commitment to full time love, attention, teaching, guidance, and care.


They are not pets. They are not pieces of property through whom to live vicariously when one's own life is empty and in need of an ego boost. They are independent humans whose brain development takes many years and who need constant personal presence and love and attention from a parent. Not being dumped in a mob of equally abused and abandoned tots in a Hunger Games day care survival scenario. And playing an horrific mind game where we say that this is their opportunity to be "socialized". Total BS. They don't need socialization, they need mommy 24/7 from 0-5 and after that mommy or daddy 24/7.


Only women can provide the maternal love that is vital for the successful early development of human beings. They are irreplaceable, especially early in life. Not men. Not the State. Not day care. Not institutions. Not other kids. MOM!


We need to go back, we're not doing it right. That's why we have kids who can't even figure out their freakin' gender. It's getting ridiculous.

So we need to reinstitute the 1950's, I guess. Wow. I guess all those children who have been raised by two working parents and have been healthy and successful were anomalies.

[BardoXV]

Originally Posted by Marc Paolella

Only women can provide the maternal love that is vital for the successful early development of human beings. They are irreplaceable, especially early in life. Not men. Not the State. Not day care. Not institutions. Not other kids. MOM!

Bull ****! Yes, women can only provide maternal love, but that isn't any better than paternal love provided by a father or grandfather. You need to try living in the real world, and not some fantasy devised by misguided women. I was basically a stay at home dad for my 2 daughters, and a stay at home grandpa for 2 of my grandchildren. For the grandchildren, I was the 3rd parent so that both parents could have jobs. If you're trying to say that a woman could do it better, you are just being a stupid feminist, with no brains.

[BardoXV]

Originally Posted by Bungalove

So we need to reinstitute the 1950's, I guess. Wow. I guess all those children who have been raised by two working parents and have been healthy and successful were anomalies.

Thank goodness for grandparents and other parent substitutes who do provide love and guidance for the kids.