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An associate at work had a daughter in college who was into partying. She partied and was hung over one morning and skipped her class with the midterm that day because she did not feel up to taking a test. There was no make up, if she did not take the test it was a zero.
Her mom called her every day and found out she skipped the test because she was hung over. This I knew because she thought that speaker phone in an office was fine.
What does mom do, but call the school, a well known university! Yes, on speaker phone. She said that her daughter was soooo sick from cramps that she could not even walk. No, she did not go to the dr because she gets cramps real bad for her period and has for years. The male professor was so shocked he said she could make up the test in a few days.
I asked my co-worker if her daughter wanted her discussing her cramps with a make professor and she laughed and said there were no cramps and told me the story about her daughter's drinking and being hung over. (Like I did not hear the conversation from her speaker phone a few minutes earlier.) She then said that with a male professor using anything female as a reason and they will immediately cave in to what you ask.
She had it down pat!
Her daughter eventually dropped out of college to go to drug rehab. With that mom she needed drugs!
Yes, and it's a lot easier for someone to cheat when they take a test online in the privacy of their home. Of course, some of those tests may be "open book" tests but still, there was no such thing when I was in college. Back then, if you made an "A" in a course, it really meant something.
As a parent with a non-gifted, hardworking child in college who gets no help or input from me or anyone other than her professors and tutors, the idea of her fellow classmates (and competitors for scholarships/internships) getting their homework done for them by someone else is just enraging.
My son is only in first grade and my husband and I were talking about this already. From what I see now I don't think our son will struggle in school but I also don't think he's going to be number 1 either. Which will actually make it easier because other people cheating for their children won't affect him the way it would if he was competing for Valedictorian or whatever. He needs for his accomplishments in life to be his own either way, but I would be enraged if he was being directly affected by these shenanigans.
As a parent with a non-gifted, hardworking child in college who gets no help or input from me or anyone other than her professors and tutors, the idea of her fellow classmates (and competitors for scholarships/internships) getting their homework done for them by someone else is just enraging.
Fear not. Your child will be successful in life. The others most likely won't.
My 6 and 8 year olds are more independent than some of these "adults".
Yep. Over involved parents are no longer unusual. It’s pretty nuts. I’ve had to field parents at work multiple times.
Just a few years ago someone in my family asked to come over to my home to use our computer because hers had died. She had a take home final to finish. Her mom came with her and they worked on it together. She was a college junior. I was flabbergasted.
Yeah, the helicoptering stuff gets way out of hand.
I understand each kid is different and there is no right answer but I took the opposite approach.
When I was in college, there was no such thing as taking tests at home on your computer. You had to show up for class on time, and take the test within the time limit allowed. It was sink or swim. Students these days can take tests at their leisure, usually, they are given a window of 1 to 2 days to take it in.
I'm still stuck on "grading on a curve", although it's been around for years. I don't get it.
As a parent with a non-gifted, hardworking child in college who gets no help or input from me or anyone other than her professors and tutors, the idea of her fellow classmates (and competitors for scholarships/internships) getting their homework done for them by someone else is just enraging.
what makes you think the parent can do it better?
i had a professor that graded on a curve on the final grade but not the exams. it means all the people who did poorly in class dropped it leaving behind the a and b students and some c. so he curved it to that
Yes, and it's a lot easier for someone to cheat when they take a test online in the privacy of their home. Of course, some of those tests may be "open book" tests but still, there was no such thing when I was in college. Back then, if you made an "A" in a course, it really meant something.
"Take Home Finals" are more akin to "term papers" than a final in the exam sense of the word.
You aren't going to take home a multiple choice exam. In the few "take home finals" that I took the Prof was looking for intelligent, directed argument to questions that demonstrated you had internalized and were able to incorporate and apply the subject matter.
You weren't going to take home the Biology exam because explaining cellular respiration had very clear objective requirements that you learned or you didn't.
"Online" finals I've taken generally required I be at the school library.
In some cases, my wife had grad-school finals at home that were timed, and monitored via your webcam, and locked out of opening other windows.
"Online" finals I've taken generally required I be at the school library.
In some cases, my wife had grad-school finals at home that were timed, and monitored via your webcam, and locked out of opening other windows.[/quote]
Not for me. The exams I took were at home, online, no webcam monitoring. And that's been fairly recently. That included final exams as well as mid term exams, etc.
Yep. Over involved parents are no longer unusual. It’s pretty nuts. I’ve had to field parents at work multiple times.
Just a few years ago someone in my family asked to come over to my home to use our computer because hers had died. She had a take home final to finish. Her mom came with her and they worked on it together. She was a college junior. I was flabbergasted.
I have a friend at work who either helped write, or wrote most of her daughter's papers in high school and now in college. The same with her college essays. I know this because she saved them to the common drive on the computer.
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