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Old 07-08-2019, 12:38 PM
 
Location: Marshall-Shadeland, Pittsburgh, PA
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I haven't seen a thread on here profiling Johnstown/Cambria County in quite some time, so I figured now would be as good of a time as any to initiate one.

Johnstown is an aging post-Industrial "Rust Belt" city about 90 minutes (~60 miles) ESE of Pittsburgh.

Johnstown's 2017 estimated population is 19,643, down from its peak of 67,327 in 1920. Its population has been in various speeds of decline for ~100 years now. The population decline seems to be hastening, so the population will likely be ~18,500 officially in the 2020 Census. About 1/3 of the population lives in poverty.

Cambria County's 2018 estimated population is 131,730, down from its peak of 213,459 in 1940. Its population has also been in various speeds of decline for generations. As with Johnstown, the decline from 2010-2020 seems to be accelerating vs. the decline from 2000-2010, so it's possible the population may be ~129,000 in the 2020 Census.

Does anyone see this decline beginning to level off anytime soon? Is the decline similar to Pittsburgh's continued population decline in that it's largely fueled by a mass dying off of a disproportionately old white non-Hispanic population?

I have always been fascinated by the history in/around Johnstown. There is some gorgeous scenery along the U.S. Route 22 Corridor as well in Northern Cambria County. Despite the steep population decline Ebensburg's "suburb" of Cambria Township has actually just landed new retail in the way of ALDI, Starbucks, and Taco Bell. I particularly enjoy stopping at this Starbucks now on my long drives to see my family near Scranton.

Amazingly Johnstown still has a minor-league hockey team, although I'd expect them to be gone by 2030 if current population trends continue, as there won't be enough of a fan base left (do people really drive in from Altoona or Indiana or Somerset to see minor-league hockey in Johnstown?)

Even Westmont, the county's "old money" suburb with large stately historic homes and tree-lined streets, and Richland Township, the county's "new suburbia" community, are both in population decline.

Is there anything that can be done to "save" Johnstown from becoming the next Braddock?
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Old 07-08-2019, 08:37 PM
 
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Reduce tax then people will come.



Nj ny people are moving to pa.


Can these poor towns offer zero tax? Lol or no one will come.
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Old 07-08-2019, 09:44 PM
 
Location: Harrisburg, PA
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I doubt you will ever see any growth in Cambria County for many decades. There's Univ Pitt at Johnstown a link to the outside world. Other than that it is isolated geographically (not near major highways or population centers) and the city is in late-stage post-industrial decline. Quite unfortunate. Many young people have left that area for Pittsburgh, or have left PA entirely. I looked at housing in Johnstown once, it is dirt cheap. Johnstown is not unique in its plight, however, as there are other PA cities struggling with population decline.

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Old 07-13-2019, 10:10 AM
 
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I haven't seen a thread on here profiling Johnstown/Cambria County in quite some time, so I figured now would be as good of a time as any to initiate one.

Johnstown is an aging post-Industrial "Rust Belt" city about 90 minutes (~60 miles) ESE of Pittsburgh.

Johnstown's 2017 estimated population is 19,643, down from its peak of 67,327 in 1920. Its population has been in various speeds of decline for ~100 years now. The population decline seems to be hastening, so the population will likely be ~18,500 officially in the 2020 Census. About 1/3 of the population lives in poverty.

Cambria County's 2018 estimated population is 131,730, down from its peak of 213,459 in 1940. Its population has also been in various speeds of decline for generations. As with Johnstown, the decline from 2010-2020 seems to be accelerating vs. the decline from 2000-2010, so it's possible the population may be ~129,000 in the 2020 Census.

Does anyone see this decline beginning to level off anytime soon? Is the decline similar to Pittsburgh's continued population decline in that it's largely fueled by a mass dying off of a disproportionately old white non-Hispanic population?

I have always been fascinated by the history in/around Johnstown. There is some gorgeous scenery along the U.S. Route 22 Corridor as well in Northern Cambria County. Despite the steep population decline Ebensburg's "suburb" of Cambria Township has actually just landed new retail in the way of ALDI, Starbucks, and Taco Bell. I particularly enjoy stopping at this Starbucks now on my long drives to see my family near Scranton.

Amazingly Johnstown still has a minor-league hockey team, although I'd expect them to be gone by 2030 if current population trends continue, as there won't be enough of a fan base left (do people really drive in from Altoona or Indiana or Somerset to see minor-league hockey in Johnstown?)

Even Westmont, the county's "old money" suburb with large stately historic homes and tree-lined streets, and Richland Township, the county's "new suburbia" community, are both in population decline.

Is there anything that can be done to "save" Johnstown from becoming the next Braddock?
Yeah I would think Cambria County's population will drop to about 129,942 at the 2020 census, down from 143,679 in 2010, a decrease of about 10.6%, the second highest in the state I believe after Cameron County, further north, which will probably fall another 15%, and it will likely to continue at that rate for more years to come as the population continues to age and people leave Johnstown area for more opportunities. The only thing that is probably keeping the Ebensburg area doing well retail wise is that it is at the intersection of a few major roadways.
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