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and probably saving their jobs in the process.....they are now free to get lower cost insurance through the exchange Does she have health insurance through her company now?
And hired more people to compensate for the loss in labor.
Helped Obama's unemployment numbers! What a victory.
The corporations who got an exemption and no longer have to provide health coverage just shifted all the expense to the employee. What a great idea. The really poor will benefit going from nothing to something and the really rich will buy private insurance with excellent coverage...the middle class is screwed. They just don't all know it yet.
Pretty well sums it up. The issue is, businesses can operate anywhere. The middle class is, in most cases, stuck living in America, no matter how unaffordable things become, or how hopeless things may seem.
So while the average American will continue to see their incomes affording less, congress will get a raise, jobs will continue to relocate to the cheapest hell hole of a country imaginable, and the government will continue to make a bad situation worse.
Good analogy. For many it does...for others it doesn't.
Yes, and those opposed to the ACA often ground their defenses in terms that make clear that they feel that society should prioritize their money over the lives and half of other people. It's such a corrupted morality that it is practically becoming an anti-morality - a personal stance that is explicitly and deliberately antisocial.
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Originally Posted by andywire
Pretty well sums it up. The issue is, businesses can operate anywhere. The middle class is, in most cases, stuck living in America, no matter how unaffordable things become, or how hopeless things may seem. So while the average American will continue to see their incomes affording less, congress will get a raise, jobs will continue to relocate to the cheapest hell hole of a country imaginable, and the government will continue to make a bad situation worse.
Excellent insight. Yet those opposed to ACA refuse to acknowledge that the solution to this problem involves leveling the playing field between businesses and employees - just restoring it to the balance of a generation ago would reverse the doubling of economic injustice that has been promulgated by the situation you outlined. Fix that imbalance, the root cause of the problem, and the costs of failing to safeguard and foster that balance originally will begin to vanish.
Underlying much of this and other issues is whether government should have the overall societal right to allocate and redistribute the wealth earned by folks. The obvious answer is yes and that us why man emerged from the state of nature to form government. The debate in our society is the establishment of the extent and boundaries of that right. Mutual defense for the common good is fairly easy. States are staking out boundaries and priorities by altering programs, taxes etc. One can transplant to where beliefs are most prominent. We can see that in the decisions of states to or not to expand Medicaid. It us at the federal level that the greatest debate rages and for some that outcome can determine the extent they wish to continue the union. For some the prevailing thought might be " I am my brothers keeper and you aren't kin".
Thus companies can operate in those states that share a common world view if they want. Perhaps it won't even be a United STATES of America decision but one from another country.
Wait until it kicks in and then the premiums will be lower and the coverage better. It may take a little while, but it is supposed to even out after a few years. And remember, the only ones getting on the insurance will be healthy people as it progresses. Meaning lower premiums.
Not really though. Your max amount spend on health insurance based on the above income is 8.05%. Whether the plan is $200 or $500, you will only pay $192. That's a little ridiculous.
I think the subsidy is based around the idea that a person can only pay X% of income on deductibles for a reasonable plan, which the law defines as the "Silver" plan. I was thinking it was 8.05% I could be wrong. So you can buy a better plan, but the law will make you pay the difference.
I think the subsidy is based around the idea that a person can only pay X% of income on deductibles for a reasonable plan, which the law defines as the "Silver" plan. I was thinking it was 8.05% I could be wrong. So you can buy a better plan, but the law will make you pay the difference.
Underlying much of this and other issues is whether government should have the overall societal right to allocate and redistribute the wealth earned by folks. The obvious answer is yes and that us why man emerged from the state of nature to form government. The debate in our society is the establishment of the extent and boundaries of that right. Mutual defense for the common good is fairly easy. States are staking out boundaries and priorities by altering programs, taxes etc. One can transplant to where beliefs are most prominent. We can see that in the decisions of states to or not to expand Medicaid. It us at the federal level that the greatest debate rages and for some that outcome can determine the extent they wish to continue the union. For some the prevailing thought might be " I am my brothers keeper and you aren't kin".
Thus companies can operate in those states that share a common world view if they want. Perhaps it won't even be a United STATES of America decision but one from another country.
As Martin Luther King said. " Let Freedom Reign".
Typical liberal statement.
A assumption stated as fact supported by another falsehood.
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Does she have health insurance through her company now?
