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Old 08-21-2012, 06:24 PM
 
Location: back in Philadelphia!
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I wonder what that would mean for the albeit speculative plans of a target on the vacant lot. Maybe an opportunity for other infill. A office tower - oh we can dream. Honestly I care less about the tower and more that it would bring new jobs to the city. Again just a dream but the city needs more jobs DT. On the residential and even retail we are doing just fine. Jobs will only fuel more of the other at this point.

I wonder what a 1,000 footer and 5K jobs would do to the area at 8th and Market

As long as it's not the usual thing of just pulling tenants from another building (or buildings) across town with a tax deal, it's great!
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Old 08-21-2012, 08:47 PM
 
Location: Philadelphia, PA
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Two 426 foot towers and two 227 foot towers proposed for the Delaware Waterfront. The DWRC is going to have a field day complaining about the height.

1,458-unit, four-tower residential and retail complex proposed for former World Trade Center site | PlanPhilly: Planning Philadelphia's Future
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Old 08-21-2012, 08:53 PM
 
Location: The City
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Two 426 foot towers and two 227 foot towers proposed for the Delaware Waterfront. The DWRC is going to have a field day complaining about the height.

1,458-unit, four-tower residential and retail complex proposed for former World Trade Center site | PlanPhilly: Planning Philadelphia's Future

It sounds like they scaled back the commercial space. Honestly I kind of agree with the developer. If any space along the waterfront is ripe for taller development this is it. Also this is bascially the pnly parcel with really good subway access. To me commercial would make sense.
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Old 08-21-2012, 10:42 PM
 
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i think it's important that the height limits be followed. It's gonna take the market too long to absorb 1400 units on the waterfront - it's just gonna slow down the pace of other developments. Good for that developer - he gets to cash in - but it sucks for anyone right behind him. That's the point of the height restrictions.

All of these proposals have had these huge podiums that are taking up entire blocks. Not ped friendly at all.
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Old 08-22-2012, 06:59 AM
 
Location: The City
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COUNTDOWN TO THE CODE: “Super” CMX-5! | Philadelphia Planeto
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Old 08-22-2012, 07:25 AM
 
Location: The City
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There are some very significant changes in the new city zoning code, which goes into effect today, that could radically alter the face of many city neighborhoods, remove some headaches for builders and developers, and make community association zoning committee meetings less interesting until someone proposes a large-scale development like the Piazza at Schmidt's.

You can read several interesting and witty posts on some of the changes in the zoning code at the City Planning Commission's blog, linked above. The blog I run has also done a series on the new code, most of it focusing on its residential end, as is our wont:

Improvements in the Philadelphia zoning code, I: Permissiveness
Improvements in the Philadelphia zoning code, II: Zoning districts
Improvements in the Philadelphia zoning code, III: Community input
Improvements in the Philadelphia zoning code, IV: Rule changes
Improvements in the Philadelphia zoning code, V: Parking requirements
Improvements in the Philadelphia zoning code, VI: Three more feet
Improvements in the Philadelphia zoning code, VII: Civic design review

There's much more that has yet to be touched on in either place. What do you think of the new code? Is it really an improvement, as both the Commission and I have argued? Do you think it will succeed at bringing about the transformations it seeks? Would you like to have seen something else in its place? Do you have concerns? I know you're all far from shy about voicing your opinions. Fire away.
Implications of the New Philadelphia Zoning Code
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Old 08-22-2012, 11:08 AM
 
Location: Philadelphia, PA
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Renders for Renaissance Plaza proposed on the waterfront: Two 426 foot towers and two 227 foot towers





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1,458-unit, four-tower residential and retail complex proposed for former World Trade Center site | PlanPhilly: Planning Philadelphia's Future
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Old 08-22-2012, 11:12 AM
 
Location: Philadelphia, PA
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Toll Brothers' 410 S. Front Street project in the New Market hole in Society Hill was unanimously approved and praised by the Planning Commission. The project needs a variance for the height since it will raise 68 feet and will go before the Zoning Board on Sept. 12.

However, some losers may be taking Toll Brothers to court over a stupid easement and that would hold up the project.

Read the article to learn about what shenanigans Toll Brothers is dealing with:

410 S. Front St. may soon be embroiled in lawsuit instead of construction | Philadelphia Real Estate Blog
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Old 08-22-2012, 12:04 PM
 
Location: The City
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Today’s the day: The dawn of a new zoning era | Philadelphia Real Estate Blog

wow even a reference to our little thread

this is link from the above post - interesting

Zoning code remaps future
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Old 08-22-2012, 12:07 PM
 
Location: Philadelphia, PA
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Today’s the day: The dawn of a new zoning era | Philadelphia Real Estate Blog

wow even a reference to our little thread

this is link from the above post - interesting

Zoning code remaps future
Haha... very nice!
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