peaceful protest (Philadelphia, Republic, Penn: home, gated, store)

[cpomp]

Originally Posted by thedirtypirate

https://nypost.com/2020/06/01/protes...-neighborhood/

Two seperate groups yelling at each other. One side calling themselves 'old fishtown' while the other calling themselves the 'new fishtown'. Both sides stupid.

An example of both sides not having brains... Leftist or rightist does not mean you are right or wrong. And a great point Sandy brought up, you can support the movement and protests and condemn the violence and looting, it doesn't have to be a one or the other scenario.

Not to get off topic, but I wonder what 2020 would be like right now if Hillary had won in 2016, I am gonna go out on a limb and say things would be better.

[thedirtypirate]

Originally Posted by cpomp

Not to get off topic, but I wonder what 2020 would be like right now if Hillary had won in 2016, I am gonna go out on a limb and say things would be better.

It certainly makes you wonder where the world would be now.



Biden is about to give speech at City Hall in 15 minutes.


I was a little surprised that Gov. Wolf didn't give a press conference yesterday, but he did survey a lot of the damage in West Philadelphia.

[cpomp]

Originally Posted by thedirtypirate

It certainly makes you wonder where the world would be now.



Biden is about to give speech at City Hall in 15 minutes.


I was a little surprised that Gov. Wolf didn't give a press conference yesterday, but he did survey a lot of the damage in West Philadelphia.

I did see he was in Philadelphia yesterday (sort of secretly).

I think at this point, Governors, mayors, senators, etc. are the people who need to speak up and do what they can to heal and unite people since our President is incapable of that.

[BR Valentine]

Originally Posted by eliza61nyc

So I walked down to the protest yesterday, it's not far from my house.

One problem I noticed is organization for a lack of a better description. so they walked to the art museum, took a knee and then not sure what the agenda was supposed to be? it seem like a lot of people milling around. any time you get that scenario some thing is bound to turn ugly.

Can we post a video, I have some cell phone pics and video from my spot? I pretty much keep to the back of the Rodin museum.

Lack of organization is the correct description. The civil rights leaders of the ‘50s and ‘60s figured out, and subsequent research on media coverage and white voting habits has confirmed, that the most effective way to turn white opinion somewhat in favor of black civil rights was to bait law enforcement into violence while not responding violently themselves. They chose places to march, sit-in, etc. where they anticipated law enforcement would respond violently. It takes tremendous organization and discipline (and courage) to use that strategy effectively. Unfortunately peaceful protest where the police don’t respond with violence gets less media coverage and doesn’t do much to change white opinion, the protestations of white people notwithstanding.

[Muinteoir]

Originally Posted by BR Valentine

Lack of organization is the correct description. The civil rights leaders of the ‘50s and ‘60s figured out, and subsequent research on media coverage and white voting habits has confirmed, that the most effective way to turn white opinion somewhat in favor of black civil rights was to bait law enforcement into violence while not responding violently themselves. They chose places to march, sit-in, etc. where they anticipated law enforcement would respond violently. It takes tremendous organization and discipline (and courage) to use that strategy effectively. Unfortunately peaceful protest where the police don’t respond with violence gets less media coverage and doesn’t do much to change white opinion, the protestations of white people notwithstanding.

Wish I could rep you more, BR. This is spot on. With all of the courage black leaders and people are taking on now, all we ask of the media is honest and fair coverage. It is not much to ask.

[Pine to Vine]

Originally Posted by thedirtypirate

It certainly makes you wonder where the world would be now.



Biden is about to give speech at City Hall in 15 minutes.

Biden’s speech was everything a President should be saying at this time. It makes me long for change.

[cpomp]

Originally Posted by Pine to Vine

Biden’s speech was everything a President should be saying at this time. It makes me long for change.

5 months away is the chance.

[DXBtoFL]

Originally Posted by cpomp

An example of both sides not having brains... Leftist or rightist does not mean you are right or wrong. And a great point Sandy brought up, you can support the movement and protests and condemn the violence and looting, it doesn't have to be a one or the other scenario.

Not to get off topic, but I wonder what 2020 would be like right now if Hillary had won in 2016, I am gonna go out on a limb and say things would be better.

Probably much the same.

COVID-19 would still have broken out with similar results and deaths. It's laughable to think HRC would have somehow blocked it from spreading across America. Any difference might be a more severe shutdown, but with no change in the actual outcome (106+k deaths). 40 million people still lose their jobs, including a majority of younger working people (the same demographics as the protesters and rioters).

Riots would still have happened because it's what happens when you throw millions of young working people out of work with nothing to do.

[jessxwrites89]

Originally Posted by gwillyfromphilly

I wonder how the King of Prussia area would've handled all these protestors and looters near their stores.

King of Prussia here. Our curfew is 8 PM, dad, the almost retired deputy was called, but since he was going on vacation, nope. However, his colleagues are patrolling the mall. They already broke into some stores, ravaged a Hooters. We're trying to keep everyone as calm and peaceful as possible. Our PD has released statements that we're an ethnic community and everyone is valued here. So far, knock on wood.

[AJNEOA]

Originally Posted by DXBtoFL

Probably much the same.

COVID-19 would still have broken out with similar results and deaths. It's laughable to think HRC would have somehow blocked it from spreading across America. Any difference might be a more severe shutdown, but with no change in the actual outcome (106+k deaths). 40 million people still lose their jobs, including a majority of younger working people (the same demographics as the protesters and rioters).

Riots would still have happened because it's what happens when you throw millions of young working people out of work with nothing to do.

HRC wouldn't have had an impact on the quality of management of COVID or the riots in Philadelphia. We would have had Kenny and Outlaw allow widespread destruction regardless.