Just Don't Know What To Think About Philly These Days (Philadelphia: transplants, neighborhood)
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I used to go up to Philly pretty regularly, but these days I don't know. I mean whether the cops are unofficially on strike, underfunded or just don't want to get recorded on film and called a racist when doing their jobs, I don't really care. The fact is that crime is up, and it's having me reconsider if a trip to Philly is worth it.
Stopped reading after the bolded couldn't imagine what else you wrote would be any better.
Yeah, you can see pretty quickly how just recognizing the police have been ****ty at their jobs (from actual city residents) triggers the Fox 29 "if it bleeds it leads" crowd. They don't have anything to contribute to this discourse other than right-wing talking points.
There are people still advocating to defund the police; maybe no longer certain politicians due the November 2020 election going a certain way.
Well, it depends on how one defines "defunding the police". See my recent comments.
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Now we're all dealing with what was sown in 2020 and the cops are being blamed...lol...you can't make this stuff up.
What happened in 2020 was the result of the powder keg of endemic police brutality being lit by the murder of George Floyd.
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Ferguson Effect, meet the Floyd Effect; except George's death is having a much wider fallout than the Ferguson. Said it before, the Floyd effect will take out 10,000+ black lives, a much smaller spike than little 'ole Feguson.
That's an interesting theory. What do you base it on?
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Ferguson being the reason for BLM creation...lol...those commie sisters have pocketed $90 million; who didn't know BLM 2020 and the general collateral payouts wasn't going to be the biggest white guilt shakedown since the '60s?
Two of the founders claim to be Marxist but defending Black lives from police brutality should ideally transcend political/cultural lines.
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Everyone has forgotten that Biden called Floyd's death the greatest civil rights death since MLK..the manipulation of Floyd goes on and on but the toll is being taken in the black community. Black community issues manipulated by whites to get rid of Trump; now the black community is taking the hit.
I don't remember Biden saying that but assuming it's true, I admit that it's a bit of hyperbole. Not sure what you mean by your second sentence; I would be surprised if the Black Philadelphian vote exceeded the 13% national average. Trump casting aspersions upon the city certainly didn't help.
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Whatever happened to the Einstein idea of having social workers and psychiatrists going out on police calls? lol...even Biden-Harris advocated that as did local pols.
That needs funding which isn't coming from Washington, as much as the White House may want to pass a relevant bill, let alone Washington.
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Let's hope the Sixers can pull off an NBA Championship on a nice warm to hot June night...lol.
If republicans are the saviors of law and order, why was Chester constantly ranked in top 3 highest homicide rate under 40 years of constant republican leadership. No republican has ever given a straight answer on this...
I still find it remarkable that the Delaware County GOP machine held onto Chester as long as they did. They put up a good fight, that’s for sure.
I just don't know how I feel about the city right now.
Is the glass half-empty, or half-full?
1) (Old news but....) We have a police commissioner that was picked from Oregon, and a city no where near comparable to Philly in size or crime stats. Has she been up to the job?
2) Now, we're going to have a school superintendent from a school district 1/10th the size of Philly's and no previous ties to the area at all. He's getting a 5 year contract -- from a district with about 20,000 kids and $190 million budget -- to Philly with 216 schools, 115,000 students, and a $3.9 BILLion budget. Are you kidding me?
3) I was on the Schuylkill Expressway yesterday for the first time in months. The pot holes are ridiculous. The number, the size, the depth. The road is like an obstacle course. The worst condition I've experience in years. I don't take the expressway often, at all. Maybe 3 times a year. Yesterday the road's condition just shocked me. And the pot holes elsewhere in the city are also just as bad, and numerous.
4) Then there's the corruption and bribery trials of local leaders.
5) The crime.
I suppose I see the city's potential. And of course there's the thread about the plan for Philly by 2035.
I just don't know what our leaders are thinking.
I'm Philly born and raised, and still live here. Although I really don't see any plus to it anymore.
It was actually the news about the schools pick, (THIS is what actually blew my mind. HE is the pick?) -- AND the pot holes, AND hearing about a day care robbery, AND the bribery trial -- all in one day that just was too much for me, I guess.
I just don't know what to make of it, sometimes. That's all.
If your numbers are correct, the district the new superintendent is coming from has a $9300/child expenditure. Philly has an almost $34,000/child expenditure. Sounds like the Philly system needs a total overhaul. Here, the top of the line private college prep high school tuition is just over $20,000.
Well, it depends on how one defines "defunding the police". See my recent comments.
What happened in 2020 was the result of the powder keg of endemic police brutality being lit by the murder of George Floyd.
That's an interesting theory. What do you base it on?
Two of the founders claim to be Marxist but defending Black lives from police brutality should ideally transcend political/cultural lines.
I don't remember Biden saying that but assuming it's true, I admit that it's a bit of hyperbole. Not sure what you mean by your second sentence; I would be surprised if the Black Philadelphian vote exceeded the 13% national average. Trump casting aspersions upon the city certainly didn't help.
That needs funding which isn't coming from Washington, as much as the White House may want to pass a relevant bill, let alone Washington.
Let's go Sixers!
Asphyxiation due to a knee on his neck? Interesting that this fallacy is still being pedaled a year after the cop's conviction.
Asphyxiation was the public outrage and violent reaction ''cause'' of death even though the initial autopsy was released on May 30 2020 that indicated no damage to the neck area, no trace of any injury at all; due to the fact that the cop knew how to use that approved and trained restraint topic.
Then the Floyd family runs and gets an independent autopsy released on June 1 stating, in fact, that Floyd was ''asphyxiated''...the narrative had to be fulfilled despite what the coroner indicated.
All this going on as Philly and country exploded in violence, death, and destruction.
Actual cause of death? Heart attack. Floyd had advanced coronary heart disease and, among other things, fatal doses of fentanyl and methamphetimine, and various types of THC in his system. This was George's 3rd overdose in a year; May 2019, March 2020, and his death in May 2020...but cop's knee asphyxiated him.
The pressure exerted by the knee was on Floyd's shoulder blade; who can speak when you're being asphyxiated by a knee on your neck?
Seems George had a habit of ingesting his drugs he places in his mouth when cops arrive and while he's cuffe...there is no video of Floyd's March 2020 overdose cuz that happened in his crib...
The Ferguson Effect is a violent crime spike study after that incident, challenged by some then, that is until the undeniable Floyd Effect began. Who didn't expect a huge long-term crime wave post-11/20?
Funding from Washington for Philly social workers and shrinks in cop calls?
The fact that you still believe, at a minimum, that Floyd was asphyxiated says it all.
Philly should use the hole created on the premier shopping block for a George Floyd Memorial Park as a symbol of America's racism, police brutality...his death was the most impactful since MLK after all.
The BLM marxist sistas pocketed $90 million blood money; like they actually care about BLM..lol. I've stated this before, the name was created so no one could say they don't support their group...how can you not when asked the question: do you support Black Lives Matter?
The reason the Floyd case is relevant to Philly is that it directly relates to the huge negative spike in QOL and the direction the city is generally heading since summer 2020.
Anyway, none of this may matter as we could all go down in a nuclear holocaust as "Never underestimate Joe's ability to F-things up'' Biden may blunder us all into a death spiral.
The organization founded by those two Black lesbian socialists is not called "Black Lives Matter". That phrase is an umbrella term covering a wide range of people and groups, not all of whom share the same political philosophy or worldview but do believe that the society as a whole pays insufficient attention to what many, even most, Blacks say about things like how the police treat them — including the great majority of Blacks who do want good police protection.
And here's the kicker: If you read their argument in favor of doing so, it actually dovetails with my criticism of how too many cops behave thanks to their training: They see themselves as warriors rather than guardians in the largely Black lower-income neighborhoods they patrol. Having interacted with the cops who patrol my own neighborhood, I know that's not universally the case, but I also know that there are enough Black people who have had those other kinds of encounters to cloud the whole issue of how best to preserve order in neighborhoods like mine.
And yes, that Officer Friendly stuff the new Camden County Metropolitan Police Department implemented makes a world of difference. I challenge those of you who dismiss this argument to prove me wrong; the numbers are out there.
Asphyxiation due to a knee on his neck? Interesting that this fallacy is still being pedaled a year after the cop's conviction.
Asphyxiation was the public outrage and violent reaction ''cause'' of death even though the initial autopsy was released on May 30 2020 that indicated no damage to the neck area, no trace of any injury at all; due to the fact that the cop knew how to use that approved and trained restraint topic.
Then the Floyd family runs and gets an independent autopsy released on June 1 stating, in fact, that Floyd was ''asphyxiated''...the narrative had to be fulfilled despite what the coroner indicated.
All this going on as Philly and country exploded in violence, death, and destruction.
Actual cause of death? Heart attack. Floyd had advanced coronary heart disease and, among other things, fatal doses of fentanyl and methamphetimine, and various types of THC in his system. This was George's 3rd overdose in a year; May 2019, March 2020, and his death in May 2020...but cop's knee asphyxiated him.
The pressure exerted by the knee was on Floyd's shoulder blade; who can speak when you're being asphyxiated by a knee on your neck?
Seems George had a habit of ingesting his drugs he places in his mouth when cops arrive and while he's cuffe...there is no video of Floyd's March 2020 overdose cuz that happened in his crib...
The Ferguson Effect is a violent crime spike study after that incident, challenged by some then, that is until the undeniable Floyd Effect began. Who didn't expect a huge long-term crime wave post-11/20?
I would ask you to share the study but we are already drifting away from a regional focus.
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Funding from Washington for Philly social workers and shrinks in cop calls?
Absolutely. Certainly preferable IMO to tanks and riot gear.
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The fact that you still believe, at a minimum, that Floyd was asphyxiated says it all.
it sure does.
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Philly should use the hole created on the premier shopping block for a George Floyd Memorial Park as a symbol of America's racism, police brutality...his death was the most impactful since MLK after all.
If you mean Walnut Street, it will recover. The riots that spun out of the protests accelerated what would have been likely closures in many cases,sadly.
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The reason the Floyd case is relevant to Philly is that it directly relates to the huge negative spike in QOL and the direction the city is generally heading since summer 2020.
It's relevant to Philly and other plurality-to-majority Black cities because police brutality against them never truly stopped. See then-Commissioner Frank Rizzo and later the MOVE bombing, among other tragedies.
The organization founded by those two Black lesbian socialists is not called "Black Lives Matter". That phrase is an umbrella term covering a wide range of people and groups, not all of whom share the same political philosophy or worldview but do believe that the society as a whole pays insufficient attention to what many, even most, Blacks say about things like how the police treat them — including the great majority of Blacks who do want good police protection.
And here's the kicker: If you read their argument in favor of doing so, it actually dovetails with my criticism of how too many cops behave thanks to their training: They see themselves as warriors rather than guardians in the largely Black lower-income neighborhoods they patrol. Having interacted with the cops who patrol my own neighborhood, I know that's not universally the case, but I also know that there are enough Black people who have had those other kinds of encounters to cloud the whole issue of how best to preserve order in neighborhoods like mine.
And yes, that Officer Friendly stuff the new Camden County Metropolitan Police Department implemented makes a world of difference. I challenge those of you who dismiss this argument to prove me wrong; the numbers are out there.
Tax exempt Black Lives Matter (Global Network Foundation) was formed in 2013 by three Marxist-trained women. This is a separate organization and is the one that collected $90 million in 2020, later reported $0.00 to the IRS after Carruthers purchased her (3rd?) multi-$million+ home
It later came within a larger umbrella group created in 2015 known as Movement for Black Lives; did 2 ''black lesbians'' start MBL? Are 2 of the original BLMgnf lesbians? didn't know that but...regardless this MBL remains unknown and was created at a 2015 conference of activists/groups in Cleveland. MBL is just an umbrella organization with various separate groups being a part of it.
BLMgf is the group that manipulated the $$ shakedown of everyone and anything that was duped into naively pouring $$ into it and, of course, publicly announcing it (Amazon, Netflix etc...all now have realized post-$0.00 reporting to IRS earlier this year that they were scammed and have since cut ties to it).
Head fundraiser for BLMgf is or was Susan Rosenberg, a convicted terrorist busted in the early '80s with 600lbs of dynamite, convicted, and sent to prison...pardoned by Bill Clinton in 2001. Rosenberg was part of the last gasps by terrorist groups that waged a deadly domestic bombing campaign in the '70s
Lots of separate local BLM chapters shot-up, especially in 2020 and were miffed in 2021 when they got $0.00 from BLMgf. Sadly, it's all about scoring $cash handouts; the race game can pay very well.
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