Possibly moving to Philadelphia from Pittsburgh (apartments, rentals, transfer)

[Blackbeauty212]

Originally Posted by loudpainting

don't have a problem with snow or precipitation so much as cloud cover.

eh, it would also be a new interesting place to live. PGH is surrounded by ignorance.

Trust me then Plenty of ignorance to go around in both Philly and NYC....

Pittsburgh is rated as one of the most Intellectual cities in the Country, so if that's not cutting it for you, maybe Boston..It and DC were the only two Rated higher then Pittsburgh on the E. Coast.

[loudpainting]

Originally Posted by Blackbeauty212

Trust me then Plenty of ignorance to go around in both Philly and NYC....

Pittsburgh is rated as one of the most Intellectual cities in the Country, so if that's not cutting it for you, maybe Boston..It and DC were the only two Rated higher then Pittsburgh on the E. Coast.

on the inside, yes. on the outside is another story. which is why I said "surrounded".

[orrmobl]

Originally Posted by Blackbeauty212

I lived in NYC for 9 years going on 10 and still have close friends and family in Philly and probably visit Philly at least 10 times a year....Philly is only 90mins away from NYC...and they pretty much have the same weather....As a matter of Fact I get weather updates on my blackberry for NYC, Philly and Pittsburgh every morning...because i'm so connected to all 3 cities.

I can say definitively orrmobl is spreading fallacies to prop up Philly weather to seem better then Pittsburgh which is only 5hrs aways...YEAH big difference.

Philadelphia and NY are both hit with No'Easters year round....Rainstorms in the Spring and Summer months Snowstorms in the winter...Happened every year for 13 years that i have been in either Philly or NY...And the Snowstorms cripple both Philly and NY the same way a snowstorm does Pittsburgh by bringing 6-12 inchs of Snow.

Now someone please tell me where Philly's weather is momentously better then Pittsburgh's look pretty much the same to me.

Are you living on the same planet as the rest of us? New York experiences much more precipitation than Philly - 8+ inches more snow a year - they seem to get hit by every storm that comes up the coast while we are usually spared. They get the weather we get but to a more extreme degree.

So they lose on the cold, and snow and win when the warm fronts come through.

Pittsburgh, on the other hand, always seems to have some sort of overcast sky which keeps things both darker, grayer, colder and muggier. No wins there.

Philly gets 6"+ inches of snow in a single storm once every 5 years these days; Pittsburgh gets a few inches of nuisance snow every couple of weeks all winter long - and remains overcast and gray as well.

Pittsburgh locals seem to know the winters are miserable and the general forecast for the area is overcast - why don't you?

Seems you are the one doing the "propping up" here - why anyone would deny reality - or accuse someone of faking the weather for personal gain? is one of those questions for the professionals.

[orrmobl]

Originally Posted by Blackbeauty212

Trust me then Plenty of ignorance to go around in both Philly and NYC....

Pittsburgh is rated as one of the most Intellectual cities in the Country, so if that's not cutting it for you, maybe Boston..It and DC were the only two Rated higher then Pittsburgh on the E. Coast.

It may be, but it's also voted worst for singles and young people, oldest general population, and is very affordable - because no one wants to live there!

[orrmobl]

Pittsburgh - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

"Pittsburgh is at the northern extreme of the humid subtropical zone in the United States, its climate can be thought of as transitional between humid subtropical (Cfa) and humid continental (Dfa). The city's climate features abundant precipitation throughout the year and four defined seasons. While there are wide variations in seasonal temperature common to temperate climates, winters are somewhat moderated by both proximity to the Atlantic Ocean and low mountains that to some degree block the advance of cold air from the north. However, Pittsburgh's average winter temperatures are notably lower than that of Philadelphia. Overall, the city's climate features cold winters with snow, and warm, humid summers with frequent clouds and precipitation."

"Due to its position on the windward side of the Allegheny Mountains, Pittsburgh receives heavy precipitation, and many days are subject to overcast skies. Precipitation is greatest in May, due to frequent thunderstorms and more organized low pressure systems which track up the eastern coast of the United States. On average, 4.04 in (103 mm) of precipitation falls during this month. The driest month of the year is February, when most precipitation falls in the form of low moisture content snow. However, Pittsburgh's February precipitation, 2.47 in (63 mm), is relatively heavy compared to other cities located further inland, mainly because the city is east enough that it can be impacted by Nor'easters in some way, but usually lighter than in the central and eastern parts of the state."

It goes on to explain that proximity to the Atlantic Ocean causes milder winter temperatures - I wonder what PA city is located close to the Atlantic Ocean? Anyone? Anyone?

[Blackbeauty212]

Originally Posted by orrmobl

Are you living on the same planet as the rest of us? New York experiences much more precipitation than Philly - 8+ inches more snow a year - they seem to get hit by every storm that comes up the coast while we are usually spared. They get the weather we get but to a more extreme degree. .

This is so far from the truth, I have no words....

Originally Posted by orrmobl

Pittsburgh, on the other hand, always seems to have some sort of overcast sky which keeps things both darker, grayer, colder and muggier. No wins there..

Climate in Philadelphia, Pennsylvania

Climate in Pittsburgh, Pennsylvania

Look pretty much the same to me...And look at that MORE RAIN IN PHILLY than in PITT....AMAZING.

Originally Posted by orrmobl

Philly gets 6"+ inches of snow in a single storm once every 5 years these days; Pittsburgh gets a few inches of nuisance snow every couple of weeks all winter long - and remains overcast and gray as well.

Again this is a Fallacy ---Every year that I spent in Philadelphia it was hit with aleast 2 major Nor'Easters and was hit with 4 Nor'Easters that I can remember this Year alone.

Originally Posted by orrmobl

Pittsburgh locals seem to know the winters are miserable and the general forecast for the area is overcast - why don't you?

Oh i'm not deying that the winters are rough in Pittsburgh...But unlike you i'm also not deying that they're rough in Philly as well.

Originally Posted by orrmobl

Seems you are the one doing the "propping up" here - why anyone would deny reality - or accuse someone of faking the weather for personal gain? is one of those questions for the professionals.

What you spew is not a reality...Its a case of homerism...You creating Fallacies about Philly winters to suggest that its much better then Pittsburghs....Not True False...Philly winters are just brutal and cold....

You want to make Philly look so much better then Pittsburgh to sway the OP...Nothing wrong with that, your from Philly, but atleast use some honest facts.

[loudpainting]

[orrmobl]

Originally Posted by Blackbeauty212

This is so far from the truth, I have no words....

What you spew is not a reality...Its a case of homerism...You creating Fallacies about Philly winters to suggest that its much better then Pittsburghs....Not True False...Philly winters are just brutal and cold....

You want to make Philly look so much better then Pittsburgh to sway the OP...Nothing wrong with that, your from Philly, but atleast use some honest facts.

LOL! Ok now you've convinced me that you need some counseling. What you are doing is called projection, plain and simple. Every thing you are saying about me is in fact the way you are acting and thinking. You should just look in the mirror and read back what you wrote to yourself...hopefully it will do some good because if you can't be swayed by something as shady as actual statistical facts, my based-in-reality and fact opinions sure aren't going to make any headway.

[FindingZen]

We are starting to reach the point where lively debate is starting to morphinto something a bit more personal.

Please respect your fellow members.

[IlDestriero]

That possible sunshine graph is exactly what I was talking about. More than a 50% chance of some sun every day (on the average), all year long in Philly. Far less likely in the 'burgh. You will notice the difference, and it's a few degrees warmer as well. I can take some cold, as long as I get some sun. Temple is looking better and better.