09-10-2009, 04:56 PM
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Ok, McNabb isn't the bum some like to call him, but he's no Hall of famer (at least not yet, he could get there someday but not nearly yet) he plays in the short passing game of the wco, yet has a sub 60% completion ratio, he's never been the best 1 or 2 quaterbacks in the league at any point in his career, and lets face it he still has no Super Bowl trophy to mitigate those shortcomings.
He led his team to five straight playoff appearances including 4 straight NFC championship and the SB appearance. Plus he has the most TD and wins in Eagles History as a starting QB. Also he has led his team to a total of five NFC Championships.
And guess what? I'm not a Eagles fan and know all this. Do I need to say anymore?
09-10-2009, 06:27 PM
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I can't believe Eagles fans don't give McNabb more respect. He has done more with less talent than any other QB in the league. Guys like Brady, Warner and Manning have Pro-Bowl WR's and TE's. McNabb gets one legitimate WR in TO and he threw for nearly 30 TD's that year and he would have had TO not gotten injured that same season. The guy was practically your entire offense when you went to those early NFC championship games because he was running and throwing. The guy can throw deep but he lacks the WR's to get open deep and he plays in Andy Reid's west coast offense. Funny but playing the west coast offense never got other great QB's criticized but somehow McNabb is marginalized for playing in it. I have no idea why he chose to remain in Philadelphia. If I was him, I would have left for a team with more weapons. THe fans in Philly are loyal but your owner is incredibly cheap. You should have won a Superbowl by now and it has a lot to do with him. Imagine if Philly instead of New England gave more than a 4th round pick for Randy Moss.
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09-10-2009, 06:35 PM
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I agree with you 100 percent. I followed pro sports mostly when I was younger (pre teen, teen, high school years). I'm 39 now, and I'm an avid runner and mountain biker, but watching some of the so called "athletes" today is a joke. People like Michael Vick, Santonio Holmes, any of them that make the press for poor behavior and activity. They are a disgrace to those who made the sports admirable before them. But what you said about the culture is spot on. More and more every day, it is clear to me why the rest of the world looks at our country and laughs.
You obviously haven't spent much time in Europe. Compared to soccer fans, football fans are tame. Soccer hooligans actually destroy stadiums and violence in the stands(including deaths) is not uncommon there. Soccer may be a wussy sport but Europeans make it a religion and will get extremely hostile whereas in America, we are passionate and enjoy hazing opposing fans but know where to draw the line. In Croatia for example, groups of fans were hold up large Nazi flags with swastikas because they were playing a Middle Eastern team. In France, their best player is Black and their own fans threw bananas on the field and stuffed animal monkeys on the field not to mention chanting monkey. The racism is open there. It's ridiculous. ESPN's Jeremy Schapp did a piece on the overt racism in soccer, watch it for yourself
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09-15-2009, 11:13 PM
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There are not to many thugs at Eagles games. The crowd mostly looks like white collar or blue collar people at a Eagles game. Philly fans do talk their share of smack. I don't know about being scared about getting beat up at a Eagles game. Jets games and Raiders games you do kind of get that feeling like maybe I will get into a fight today wearing another teams jersey. My friend told me that its always in the paper or in the news when theirs a fight or the fans act up in philly, its almost like the city promotes their fans acting up which makes no sense at all. Their has been plenty of fights and other incidents at Jets and Giants games but your not going to see these incidents in the New York Times! If anything New York wouldn't want these problems getting out into the media. Mcnabb dose deserve more respect in Philly! However Eli Manning won a Super Bowl for the Giants and he dosen't get much respect in New York, fans still complain about him not being able to throw the ball into the wind. Yankee fans are rough. Alot of them that come to the games look like mobsters or thugs right of the streets of the Bronx. When Yankess and Red Sox play the fans get crazy on both sides. I know a girl who got into a verbal fight on the train with a Red Sox fan because she had a Red Sox's hat on and my friend is a Yankee fan. A couple of years back a crazy Yankee fan ran over a Red Sox fan with his car and killed him. Not to smart!!! However I really don't like the Yankess! I know we suck right now but Go METS!!!
09-16-2009, 01:48 AM
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Sincere question to Eagles fans, do you think your fans are the most indimidating in the NFL. I've heard people in Philadelphia are scared to go to their own games because their own fans are a little thug-like. How true is that? I've heard Eagles fans are scarier than Raiders fans. One Eagle fan told me he poured a beer on his own fan becuse he wore the wrong colors to the game and didn't wear enough green.
Not to a NY Giants fan. Mcnabb can’t do anything as long as Osi and Tuck are at the two defensive ends spots for the GMEN!!!
09-16-2009, 01:56 AM
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There are not to many thugs at Eagles games. The crowd mostly looks like white collar or blue collar people at a Eagles game. Philly fans do talk their share of smack. I don't know about being scared about getting beat up at a Eagles game. Jets games and Raiders games you do kind of get that feeling like maybe I will get into a fight today wearing another teams jersey. My friend told me that its always in the paper or in the news when theirs a fight or the fans act up in philly, its almost like the city promotes their fans acting up which makes no sense at all. Their has been plenty of fights and other incidents at Jets and Giants games but your not going to see these incidents in the New York Times! If anything New York wouldn't want these problems getting out into the media. Mcnabb dose deserve more respect in Philly! However Eli Manning won a Super Bowl for the Giants and he dosen't get much respect in New York, fans still complain about him not being able to throw the ball into the wind. Yankee fans are rough. Alot of them that come to the games look like mobsters or thugs right of the streets of the Bronx. When Yankess and Red Sox play the fans get crazy on both sides. I know a girl who got into a verbal fight on the train with a Red Sox fan because she had a Red Sox's hat on and my friend is a Yankee fan. A couple of years back a crazy Yankee fan ran over a Red Sox fan with his car and killed him. Not to smart!!! However I really don't like the Yankess! I know we suck right now but Go METS!!!
You speak the Truth. They do not call it The Bronx AKA The Jungle, for nothing. The Yankees fans do not play in The Bronx. If a Boston Redsox fan say something smart about the Yankees is going to be on. LOL Mets BOOOO lol. Is ok though I like all my NY teams!
09-16-2009, 04:36 AM
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Don't get around much? I was going to ask azriverfan about the soccer fan comment, but I see that it is pertinent. Yes, American football fans are an embarrassment. They don't drink enough, can't hold their liquor, go and throw up instead of using their beer guts to be more enthusiastic fans.
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I am against the whole football culture. It is an embarassment to our Country. Tailgate, yell, puke repeat. It is disgusting. I do not bother with it. If the Eagles win it is nice. If they lose, the sun comes up tommorrow.
09-16-2009, 04:02 PM
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They don't appreciate a Hall of Fame QB like Mcnabb
McNabb has been a very good quarterback, but he's no Hall of Famer IMO. Though McNabb played a significant role in the Eagles' success in this decade, the defense played an even bigger role IMO. Many of the years McNabb had good seasons, the Eagles had a solid running game, even if it was underutilized. I do agree McNabb has not had great receivers to work with besides Terrell Owens. McNabb also is a quarterback who is not good at leading comebacks when a team is behind, unlike many genuinely great quarterbacks.
09-16-2009, 04:54 PM
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McNabb has been a very good quarterback, but he's no Hall of Famer IMO. Though McNabb played a significant role in the Eagles' success in this decade, the defense played an even bigger role IMO. Many of the years McNabb had good seasons, the Eagles had a solid running game, even if it was underutilized. I do agree McNabb has not had great receivers to work with besides Terrell Owens. McNabb also is a quarterback who is not good at leading comebacks when a team is behind, unlike many genuinely great quarterbacks.
Eagles down 24-6 in NFC Championship and then Mcnabb leads them to 25-24 lead? Who lost the game? the Defense?
09-16-2009, 04:59 PM
Location: Sierra Vista, AZ
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First of all it's Iggles and as Charles Barklay said "it's the one place that people will buy season tickets just to come and boo you". It keeps the stands full
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People in Group quarters - Military hospitals or wards for chronically ill (%)
People in Group quarters - Other hospitals or wards for chronically ill (%)
People in Group quarters - Hospitals or wards for drug/alcohol abuse (%)
People in Group quarters - Mental (Psychiatric) hospitals or wards (%)
People in Group quarters - Schools, hospitals, or wards for the mentally retarded (%)
People in Group quarters - Schools, hospitals, or wards for the physically handicapped (%)
People in Group quarters - Institutions for the deaf (%)
People in Group quarters - Institutions for the blind (%)
People in Group quarters - Orthopedic wards and institutions for the physically handicapped (%)
People in Group quarters - Wards in general hospitals for patients who have no usual home elsewhere (%)
People in Group quarters - Wards in military hospitals for patients who have no usual home elsewhere (%)
People in Group quarters - Juvenile institutions (%)
People in Group quarters - Long-term care (%)
People in Group quarters - Homes for abused, dependent, and neglected children (%)
People in Group quarters - Residential treatment centers for emotionally disturbed children (%)
People in Group quarters - Training schools for juvenile delinquents (%)
People in Group quarters - Short-term care, detention or diagnostic centers for delinquent children (%)
People in Group quarters - Type of juvenile institution unknown (%)
People in Group quarters - Noninstitutionalized population (%)
People in Group quarters - College dormitories (includes college quarters off campus) (%)
People in Group quarters - Military quarters (%)
People in Group quarters - On base (%)
People in Group quarters - Barracks, unaccompanied personnel housing (UPH), (Enlisted/Officer), ;and similar group living quarters for military personnel (%)
People in Group quarters - Transient quarters for temporary residents (%)
People in Group quarters - Military ships (%)
People in Group quarters - Group homes (%)
People in Group quarters - Homes or halfway houses for drug/alcohol abuse (%)
People in Group quarters - Homes for the mentally ill (%)
People in Group quarters - Homes for the mentally retarded (%)
People in Group quarters - Homes for the physically handicapped (%)
People in Group quarters - Other group homes (%)
People in Group quarters - Religious group quarters (%)
People in Group quarters - Dormitories (%)
People in Group quarters - Agriculture workers' dormitories on farms (%)
People in Group quarters - Job Corps and vocational training facilities (%)
People in Group quarters - Other workers' dormitories (%)
People in Group quarters - Crews of maritime vessels (%)
People in Group quarters - Other nonhousehold living situations (%)
People in Group quarters - Other noninstitutional group quarters (%)
Residents speaking English at home (%)
Residents speaking English at home - Born in the United States (%)
Residents speaking English at home - Native, born elsewhere (%)
Residents speaking English at home - Foreign born (%)
Residents speaking Spanish at home (%)
Residents speaking Spanish at home - Born in the United States (%)
Residents speaking Spanish at home - Native, born elsewhere (%)
Residents speaking Spanish at home - Foreign born (%)
Residents speaking other language at home (%)
Residents speaking other language at home - Born in the United States (%)
Residents speaking other language at home - Native, born elsewhere (%)
Residents speaking other language at home - Foreign born (%)
Class of Workers - Employee of private company (%)
Class of Workers - Self-employed in own incorporated business (%)
Class of Workers - Private not-for-profit wage and salary workers (%)
Class of Workers - Local government workers (%)
Class of Workers - State government workers (%)
Class of Workers - Federal government workers (%)
Class of Workers - Self-employed workers in own not incorporated business and Unpaid family workers (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Utility gas (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Bottled, tank, or LP gas (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Electricity (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Fuel oil, kerosene, etc. (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Coal or coke (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Wood (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Solar energy (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Other fuel (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - No fuel used (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Utility gas (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Bottled, tank, or LP gas (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Electricity (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Fuel oil, kerosene, etc. (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Coal or coke (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Wood (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Solar energy (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Other fuel (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - No fuel used (%)
Armed forces status - In Armed Forces (%)
Armed forces status - Civilian (%)
Armed forces status - Civilian - Veteran (%)
Armed forces status - Civilian - Nonveteran (%)
Fatal accidents locations in years 2005-2021
Fatal accidents locations in 2005
Fatal accidents locations in 2006
Fatal accidents locations in 2007
Fatal accidents locations in 2008
Fatal accidents locations in 2009
Fatal accidents locations in 2010
Fatal accidents locations in 2011
Fatal accidents locations in 2012
Fatal accidents locations in 2013
Fatal accidents locations in 2014
Fatal accidents locations in 2015
Fatal accidents locations in 2016
Fatal accidents locations in 2017
Fatal accidents locations in 2018
Fatal accidents locations in 2019
Fatal accidents locations in 2020
Fatal accidents locations in 2021
Alcohol use - People drinking some alcohol every month (%)
Alcohol use - People not drinking at all (%)
Alcohol use - Average days/month drinking alcohol
Alcohol use - Average drinks/week
Alcohol use - Average days/year people drink much
Audiometry - Average condition of hearing (%)
Audiometry - People that can hear a whisper from across a quiet room (%)
Audiometry - People that can hear normal voice from across a quiet room (%)
Audiometry - Ears ringing, roaring, buzzing (%)
Audiometry - Had a job exposure to loud noise (%)
Audiometry - Had off-work exposure to loud noise (%)
Blood Pressure & Cholesterol - Has high blood pressure (%)
Blood Pressure & Cholesterol - Checking blood pressure at home (%)
Blood Pressure & Cholesterol - Frequently checking blood cholesterol (%)
Blood Pressure & Cholesterol - Has high cholesterol level (%)
Consumer Behavior - Money monthly spent on food at supermarket/grocery store
Consumer Behavior - Money monthly spent on food at other stores
Consumer Behavior - Money monthly spent on eating out
Consumer Behavior - Money monthly spent on carryout/delivered foods
Consumer Behavior - Income spent on food at supermarket/grocery store (%)
Consumer Behavior - Income spent on food at other stores (%)
Consumer Behavior - Income spent on eating out (%)
Consumer Behavior - Income spent on carryout/delivered foods (%)
Current Health Status - General health condition (%)
Current Health Status - Blood donors (%)
Current Health Status - Has blood ever tested for HIV virus (%)
Current Health Status - Left-handed people (%)
Dermatology - People using sunscreen (%)
Diabetes - Diabetics (%)
Diabetes - Had a blood test for high blood sugar (%)
Diabetes - People taking insulin (%)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Diet health (%)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Milk product consumption (# of products/month)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Meals not home prepared (#/week)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Meals from fast food or pizza place (#/week)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Ready-to-eat foods (#/month)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Frozen meals/pizza (#/month)
Drug Use - People that ever used marijuana or hashish (%)
Drug Use - Ever used hard drugs (%)
Drug Use - Ever used any form of cocaine (%)
Drug Use - Ever used heroin (%)
Drug Use - Ever used methamphetamine (%)
Health Insurance - People covered by health insurance (%)
Kidney Conditions-Urology - Avg. # of times urinating at night
Medical Conditions - People with asthma (%)
Medical Conditions - People with anemia (%)
Medical Conditions - People with psoriasis (%)
Medical Conditions - People with overweight (%)
Medical Conditions - Elderly people having difficulties in thinking or remembering (%)
Medical Conditions - People who ever received blood transfusion (%)
Medical Conditions - People having trouble seeing even with glass/contacts (%)
Medical Conditions - People with arthritis (%)
Medical Conditions - People with gout (%)
Medical Conditions - People with congestive heart failure (%)
Medical Conditions - People with coronary heart disease (%)
Medical Conditions - People with angina pectoris (%)
Medical Conditions - People who ever had heart attack (%)
Medical Conditions - People who ever had stroke (%)
Medical Conditions - People with emphysema (%)
Medical Conditions - People with thyroid problem (%)
Medical Conditions - People with chronic bronchitis (%)
Medical Conditions - People with any liver condition (%)
Medical Conditions - People who ever had cancer or malignancy (%)
Mental Health - People who have little interest in doing things (%)
Mental Health - People feeling down, depressed, or hopeless (%)
Mental Health - People who have trouble sleeping or sleeping too much (%)
Mental Health - People feeling tired or having little energy (%)
Mental Health - People with poor appetite or overeating (%)
Mental Health - People feeling bad about themself (%)
Mental Health - People who have trouble concentrating on things (%)
Mental Health - People moving or speaking slowly or too fast (%)
Mental Health - People having thoughts they would be better off dead (%)
Oral Health - Average years since last visit a dentist
Oral Health - People embarrassed because of mouth (%)
Oral Health - People with gum disease (%)
Oral Health - General health of teeth and gums (%)
Oral Health - Average days a week using dental floss/device
Oral Health - Average days a week using mouthwash for dental problem
Oral Health - Average number of teeth
Pesticide Use - Households using pesticides to control insects (%)
Pesticide Use - Households using pesticides to kill weeds (%)
Physical Activity - People doing vigorous-intensity work activities (%)
Physical Activity - People doing moderate-intensity work activities (%)
Physical Activity - People walking or bicycling (%)
Physical Activity - People doing vigorous-intensity recreational activities (%)
Physical Activity - People doing moderate-intensity recreational activities (%)
Physical Activity - Average hours a day doing sedentary activities
Physical Activity - Average hours a day watching TV or videos
Physical Activity - Average hours a day using computer
Physical Functioning - People having limitations keeping them from working (%)
Physical Functioning - People limited in amount of work they can do (%)
Physical Functioning - People that need special equipment to walk (%)
Physical Functioning - People experiencing confusion/memory problems (%)
Physical Functioning - People requiring special healthcare equipment (%)
Prescription Medications - Average number of prescription medicines taking
Preventive Aspirin Use - Adults 40+ taking low-dose aspirin (%)
Reproductive Health - Vaginal deliveries (%)
Reproductive Health - Cesarean deliveries (%)
Reproductive Health - Deliveries resulted in a live birth (%)
Reproductive Health - Pregnancies resulted in a delivery (%)
Reproductive Health - Women breastfeeding newborns (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that had a hysterectomy (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that had both ovaries removed (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that have ever taken birth control pills (%)
Reproductive Health - Women taking birth control pills (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that have ever used Depo-Provera or injectables (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that have ever used female hormones (%)
Sexual Behavior - People 18+ that ever had sex (vaginal, anal, or oral) (%)
Sexual Behavior - Males 18+ that ever had vaginal sex with a woman (%)
Sexual Behavior - Males 18+ that ever performed oral sex on a woman (%)
Sexual Behavior - Males 18+ that ever had anal sex with a woman (%)
Sexual Behavior - Males 18+ that ever had any sex with a man (%)
Sexual Behavior - Females 18+ that ever had vaginal sex with a man (%)
Sexual Behavior - Females 18+ that ever performed oral sex on a man (%)
Sexual Behavior - Females 18+ that ever had anal sex with a man (%)
Sexual Behavior - Females 18+ that ever had any kind of sex with a woman (%)
Sexual Behavior - Average age people first had sex
Sexual Behavior - Average number of female sex partners in lifetime (males 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of female vaginal sex partners in lifetime (males 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average age people first performed oral sex on a woman (18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of woman performed oral sex on in lifetime (18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male sex partners in lifetime (males 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male anal sex partners in lifetime (males 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average age people first performed oral sex on a man (18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male oral sex partners in lifetime (18+)
Sexual Behavior - People using protection when performing oral sex (%)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of times people have vaginal or anal sex a year
Sexual Behavior - People having sex without condom (%)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male sex partners in lifetime (females 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male vaginal sex partners in lifetime (females 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of female sex partners in lifetime (females 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Circumcised males 18+ (%)
Sleep Disorders - Average hours sleeping at night
Sleep Disorders - People that has trouble sleeping (%)
Smoking-Cigarette Use - People smoking cigarettes (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ having problems with smell (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ having problems with taste (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had wisdom teeth removed (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had tonsils teeth removed (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had a loss of consciousness because of a head injury (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had a broken nose or other serious injury to face or skull (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had two or more sinus infections (%)
Weight - Average height (inches)
Weight - Average weight (pounds)
Weight - Average BMI
Weight - People that are obese (%)
Weight - People that ever were obese (%)
Weight - People trying to lose weight (%)
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