Phoenix is dead

[MGotcha]

Originally Posted by Zippyman

Comparing our modern synthetic-stucco and styrofoam boxes (houses) to Egyptian constructs is just crazy. Most business-buildings in the valley are little more than glorified pole-barns. Our houses would disappear in relatively short order without regular termite treatment (modern termiticides last less than a decade).

While the lack of moisture is good for some materials, leave a wood board outside for a few weeks and it will twist, warp, and start to fall apart from the sun exposure.

My son mashed a butt sized dent in the side of my home office that was constructed using the popular "synthetic-stucco" method. Thank god the rest of my house is block construction! This method is nothing like the old stucco methods which used lathe and thick layers of stucco. In 40+ years, most of the synthetic-stucco foam boxes out here will be rotted out shacks due to physical damage and slow water invasion (if the termites don't clean'm out first!). Just Google "stucco nightmares".

Reminds me of the water resistant "greenboard" in showers and aluminum wiring used in the 70's. Cheap & works great for the first 20 years but then falls apart or burns up!

[SOON2BNSURPRISE]

I just figured it out. The only thing that would be left in the area is the old Trotter Park building on the west side near the 10 and the 303.

[Arizona Mike]

I think the original book on this subject mentioned that the Boulder Dam hydroelectric station would provide power for the longest time (unattended) of any energy source...so maybe Phoenix isn't such a bad choice if you plan to be the last man on earth, you'd have enough power to run your freezer for a while. Likewise, Palo Verde would eventually just shut down and not blow up. At least, that's the way it's designed (nuclear plants aren't nuclear devices - in a worst case scenario, like 3 Mile Island or Chernobyl, they could leak radioactive material but it takes a lot of things happening in just the right sequence to trigger a nuclear explosion, it's not easy to do).

I was trying to think of post-apocalyptic flicks set in Phoenix... A BOY AND HIS DOG, based on the Harlan Ellison novella is one, where Phoenix has turned into what looks like a massive dry lake with structures all buried underground. There was also A FIRE IN THE SKY (1978) where Phoenix was hit by a meteor.

[Phxguy]

Originally Posted by Arizona Mike

I think the original book on this subject mentioned that the Boulder Dam hydroelectric station would provide power for the longest time (unattended) of any energy source...so maybe Phoenix isn't such a bad choice if you plan to be the last man on earth, you'd have enough power to run your freezer for a while. Likewise, Palo Verde would eventually just shut down and not blow up. At least, that's the way it's designed (nuclear plants aren't nuclear devices - in a worst case scenario, like 3 Mile Island or Chernobyl, they could leak radioactive material but it takes a lot of things happening in just the right sequence to trigger a nuclear explosion, it's not easy to do).

I was trying to think of post-apocalyptic flicks set in Phoenix... A BOY AND HIS DOG, based on the Harlan Ellison novella is one, where Phoenix has turned into what looks like a massive dry lake with structures all buried underground. There was also A FIRE IN THE SKY (1978) where Phoenix was hit by a meteor.

I've been trying to find Fire in the Sky, but on youtube it always confuses it with the other movie of the same name.

[shiphead]

It's funny, you folks are speaking of this area without humans for 100 years. Any area in the world would be overrun by nature with no human involvement. Why do you think people pay Pedro to cut the grass? because he is controlling nature.

[vaio71]

Its been dead since 2007 whent the economic depression started. People who already knew what was happening began to leave the state. Right now, Az is hanging on a thread because of an impasse with the FEDS over immigration issues likewise the state revenue has drop double digit bringing AZ even more into deeper waters of trouble fear and neglect. Only the strong survives, yes. The strong bank accounts, assets and less liabilities but for those who work 8-12 hrs each day it is a nightmare. Even on my part, being a retiree, I have second thoughts of staying here even longer because of the facts laying around AZ but yet I believe on the Phoenix Bird, from the ashes it burns down to the ashes it will RISE up again...question is...WHEN.