05-14-2012, 09:07 PM
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Phoenix Real Estate Market Keeps Tanking That title is actually not what is happening in Phoenix , however, it is part of the negative sentiment portrayed in the national media that is probably keeping many people, who would be buying our luxury homes, out of the market. The investors and locals who keep on top of the market know that the Phoenix real estate market has turned around, and it’s difficult to buy a home in the low price ranges. Just yesterday one of my clients made an offer on a home where the short sale bank had issued an acceptance letter for $110,000 just after the buyer walked. Our offer was at $110,000. We lost to another bidder who offered $120,000 cash with $12,000 earnest money.
What is earnest money? That means the house wasn't financed? I'm moving to the Phoneix area in August, and plan to pick up a house as well. A first time home-buyer and don't know much at all about it.
05-14-2012, 09:12 PM
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05-14-2012, 09:24 PM
Location: Rural Michigan
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What is earnest money? That means the house wasn't financed? I'm moving to the Phoneix area in August, and plan to pick up a house as well. A first time home-buyer and don't know much at all about it.
It's just a deposit given with the offer - if the buyer accepts your offer it is held by the escrow company until the sale closes. For most deals perhaps ~$1,000, but if the seller will accept it, it might be a buck...or $12000 bucks ;-)
If your offer is financed they count that money as part of your down payment.
05-15-2012, 10:27 AM
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Earnest money is to show you're earnest about buying the house, not running around putting in offers on every property you see, planning on cherry picking in the end and walking away from the rest.
05-15-2012, 11:03 AM
Location: Casa Grande, AZ (May 08)
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So, I guess I ll just keep adding to this thread since that seems to be the preferred consensus. April MLS stats released this morning:
www.armls.com
Just more confirmation of what this thread has been saying. The ONLY datapoint that is going down is the number of sales. The average, and median prices both have gone up substancially. In Pinal County the rises are even more dramatic from a median price of 85,500 in 4/2011 up to 112,500 in 4/2012.
This thread has already debated why the UNIT sales have decreased lately - I will just point out that there is a chart at the link above that shows that far fewer NEW listings have been put on the market both month over month and year over year - as others have said - you cant sell what isnt there.
As another point to this, in Pinal, the unit sales year over year are way down (from 963 last year to 814 this year), but in 4/11 there was over 2700 active listings in the Pinal areas covered be the ARMLS. In 4/2012 there is only 1759 active listings. BUT, on a monthly basis there was only a small drop in sales in Pinal - from 823 last month to 814 this month, and listing only dropped from 1803 active listings last month to 1759. SO, if it was for sale, it sold in Pinal. An almost perfect correlation of active listings and sales.
05-16-2012, 09:02 AM
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Is Now The Time To Buy Your First House?
Is Now The Time To Buy Your First House?
YES !!!
!!!
It seems there are three methods that can be used to make that determination:
Follow the positive opinion
Follow the negative opinion
Do the research and follow your own educated opinion
This article has two very different opinions, one positive, and the other negative. Your opinion is number 3.
Would you follow number 1, number 2, or number 3?
Is Now the Time to Buy Your First House? - WSJ.com
05-16-2012, 10:15 AM
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I'm surprised the RBC guy didn't cite the tax benefit of a mortgage. You can buy a nice house here for around $900/month. You could save about $250/month in income taxes with that mortgage, so your net outflow is around $650/month. Compare that house to the place you could rent for $650. Even if you never got any equity appreciation from the house, owning would make more sense.
05-16-2012, 10:38 AM
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Is Now The Time To Buy Your First House?
YES !!!
!!!
It seems there are three methods that can be used to make that determination:
Follow the positive opinion
Follow the negative opinion
Do the research and follow your own educated opinion
This article has two very different opinions, one positive, and the other negative. Your opinion is number 3.
Would you follow number 1, number 2, or number 3?
Is Now the Time to Buy Your First House? - WSJ.com
yup. my opinion changes hourly.
Mathematically, another 20% reduction on an already reduced item, is not as imposing. Just go in to any retail outlet to appreciate that metric.
I would propose that its not as big a gamble to buy a house today as it was even a year ago. Yes people that bought a year ago, myself included, may look smart today but it was a gamble that paid off. I never congragulate myself too much because I have lost money too or had reduced profits. Ive bought and sold for years and know its as much luck as brains if you make money.
If you buy today, it is very unlikely you would lose significant $s over a 5 year span and you will more likely make money. Probaly more of a gample to invest in the stock market.
05-16-2012, 11:42 AM
Location: Rural Michigan
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yup. my opinion changes hourly.
It's fun to pick apart the "dueling experts" - in that article, Gary Shilling states that you shouldn't buy because pricing *could* fall another 22%. But, I got an email update this morning from zillow, stating that the value of one of my properties was up 17.6% in the last 30 days.
Soooo... If I believe both "experts", my downside risk is less than 5%, *and* ... I've "made" enough money on Phoenix real estate... In the past 30 days... To put half down on a new Corvette.
I really want a *blue* one, with a saddle interior...
Do you think the wife will go along?
;-)
I mean, they're unbiased "experts"... How could they be wrong?!
Perhaps I should wait another month & look at Bimmers?
05-16-2012, 01:22 PM
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It's fun to pick apart the "dueling experts" - in that article, Gary Shilling states that you shouldn't buy because pricing *could* fall another 22%. But, I got an email update this morning from zillow, stating that the value of one of my properties was up 17.6% in the last 30 days.
Of course she will go along because universally, women see the value of borrowing against theoretical profits and investing that hard money into life neccesities, such as sports car. Maybe thats why i drive a 95 ranger and she drives a Denali
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Residents speaking Spanish at home (%)
Residents speaking Spanish at home - Born in the United States (%)
Residents speaking Spanish at home - Native, born elsewhere (%)
Residents speaking Spanish at home - Foreign born (%)
Residents speaking other language at home (%)
Residents speaking other language at home - Born in the United States (%)
Residents speaking other language at home - Native, born elsewhere (%)
Residents speaking other language at home - Foreign born (%)
Class of Workers - Employee of private company (%)
Class of Workers - Self-employed in own incorporated business (%)
Class of Workers - Private not-for-profit wage and salary workers (%)
Class of Workers - Local government workers (%)
Class of Workers - State government workers (%)
Class of Workers - Federal government workers (%)
Class of Workers - Self-employed workers in own not incorporated business and Unpaid family workers (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Utility gas (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Bottled, tank, or LP gas (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Electricity (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Fuel oil, kerosene, etc. (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Coal or coke (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Wood (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Solar energy (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Other fuel (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - No fuel used (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Utility gas (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Bottled, tank, or LP gas (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Electricity (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Fuel oil, kerosene, etc. (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Coal or coke (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Wood (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Solar energy (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Other fuel (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - No fuel used (%)
Armed forces status - In Armed Forces (%)
Armed forces status - Civilian (%)
Armed forces status - Civilian - Veteran (%)
Armed forces status - Civilian - Nonveteran (%)
Fatal accidents locations in years 2005-2021
Fatal accidents locations in 2005
Fatal accidents locations in 2006
Fatal accidents locations in 2007
Fatal accidents locations in 2008
Fatal accidents locations in 2009
Fatal accidents locations in 2010
Fatal accidents locations in 2011
Fatal accidents locations in 2012
Fatal accidents locations in 2013
Fatal accidents locations in 2014
Fatal accidents locations in 2015
Fatal accidents locations in 2016
Fatal accidents locations in 2017
Fatal accidents locations in 2018
Fatal accidents locations in 2019
Fatal accidents locations in 2020
Fatal accidents locations in 2021
Alcohol use - People drinking some alcohol every month (%)
Alcohol use - People not drinking at all (%)
Alcohol use - Average days/month drinking alcohol
Alcohol use - Average drinks/week
Alcohol use - Average days/year people drink much
Audiometry - Average condition of hearing (%)
Audiometry - People that can hear a whisper from across a quiet room (%)
Audiometry - People that can hear normal voice from across a quiet room (%)
Audiometry - Ears ringing, roaring, buzzing (%)
Audiometry - Had a job exposure to loud noise (%)
Audiometry - Had off-work exposure to loud noise (%)
Blood Pressure & Cholesterol - Has high blood pressure (%)
Blood Pressure & Cholesterol - Checking blood pressure at home (%)
Blood Pressure & Cholesterol - Frequently checking blood cholesterol (%)
Blood Pressure & Cholesterol - Has high cholesterol level (%)
Consumer Behavior - Money monthly spent on food at supermarket/grocery store
Consumer Behavior - Money monthly spent on food at other stores
Consumer Behavior - Money monthly spent on eating out
Consumer Behavior - Money monthly spent on carryout/delivered foods
Consumer Behavior - Income spent on food at supermarket/grocery store (%)
Consumer Behavior - Income spent on food at other stores (%)
Consumer Behavior - Income spent on eating out (%)
Consumer Behavior - Income spent on carryout/delivered foods (%)
Current Health Status - General health condition (%)
Current Health Status - Blood donors (%)
Current Health Status - Has blood ever tested for HIV virus (%)
Current Health Status - Left-handed people (%)
Dermatology - People using sunscreen (%)
Diabetes - Diabetics (%)
Diabetes - Had a blood test for high blood sugar (%)
Diabetes - People taking insulin (%)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Diet health (%)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Milk product consumption (# of products/month)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Meals not home prepared (#/week)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Meals from fast food or pizza place (#/week)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Ready-to-eat foods (#/month)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Frozen meals/pizza (#/month)
Drug Use - People that ever used marijuana or hashish (%)
Drug Use - Ever used hard drugs (%)
Drug Use - Ever used any form of cocaine (%)
Drug Use - Ever used heroin (%)
Drug Use - Ever used methamphetamine (%)
Health Insurance - People covered by health insurance (%)
Kidney Conditions-Urology - Avg. # of times urinating at night
Medical Conditions - People with asthma (%)
Medical Conditions - People with anemia (%)
Medical Conditions - People with psoriasis (%)
Medical Conditions - People with overweight (%)
Medical Conditions - Elderly people having difficulties in thinking or remembering (%)
Medical Conditions - People who ever received blood transfusion (%)
Medical Conditions - People having trouble seeing even with glass/contacts (%)
Medical Conditions - People with arthritis (%)
Medical Conditions - People with gout (%)
Medical Conditions - People with congestive heart failure (%)
Medical Conditions - People with coronary heart disease (%)
Medical Conditions - People with angina pectoris (%)
Medical Conditions - People who ever had heart attack (%)
Medical Conditions - People who ever had stroke (%)
Medical Conditions - People with emphysema (%)
Medical Conditions - People with thyroid problem (%)
Medical Conditions - People with chronic bronchitis (%)
Medical Conditions - People with any liver condition (%)
Medical Conditions - People who ever had cancer or malignancy (%)
Mental Health - People who have little interest in doing things (%)
Mental Health - People feeling down, depressed, or hopeless (%)
Mental Health - People who have trouble sleeping or sleeping too much (%)
Mental Health - People feeling tired or having little energy (%)
Mental Health - People with poor appetite or overeating (%)
Mental Health - People feeling bad about themself (%)
Mental Health - People who have trouble concentrating on things (%)
Mental Health - People moving or speaking slowly or too fast (%)
Mental Health - People having thoughts they would be better off dead (%)
Oral Health - Average years since last visit a dentist
Oral Health - People embarrassed because of mouth (%)
Oral Health - People with gum disease (%)
Oral Health - General health of teeth and gums (%)
Oral Health - Average days a week using dental floss/device
Oral Health - Average days a week using mouthwash for dental problem
Oral Health - Average number of teeth
Pesticide Use - Households using pesticides to control insects (%)
Pesticide Use - Households using pesticides to kill weeds (%)
Physical Activity - People doing vigorous-intensity work activities (%)
Physical Activity - People doing moderate-intensity work activities (%)
Physical Activity - People walking or bicycling (%)
Physical Activity - People doing vigorous-intensity recreational activities (%)
Physical Activity - People doing moderate-intensity recreational activities (%)
Physical Activity - Average hours a day doing sedentary activities
Physical Activity - Average hours a day watching TV or videos
Physical Activity - Average hours a day using computer
Physical Functioning - People having limitations keeping them from working (%)
Physical Functioning - People limited in amount of work they can do (%)
Physical Functioning - People that need special equipment to walk (%)
Physical Functioning - People experiencing confusion/memory problems (%)
Physical Functioning - People requiring special healthcare equipment (%)
Prescription Medications - Average number of prescription medicines taking
Preventive Aspirin Use - Adults 40+ taking low-dose aspirin (%)
Reproductive Health - Vaginal deliveries (%)
Reproductive Health - Cesarean deliveries (%)
Reproductive Health - Deliveries resulted in a live birth (%)
Reproductive Health - Pregnancies resulted in a delivery (%)
Reproductive Health - Women breastfeeding newborns (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that had a hysterectomy (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that had both ovaries removed (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that have ever taken birth control pills (%)
Reproductive Health - Women taking birth control pills (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that have ever used Depo-Provera or injectables (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that have ever used female hormones (%)
Sexual Behavior - People 18+ that ever had sex (vaginal, anal, or oral) (%)
Sexual Behavior - Males 18+ that ever had vaginal sex with a woman (%)
Sexual Behavior - Males 18+ that ever performed oral sex on a woman (%)
Sexual Behavior - Males 18+ that ever had anal sex with a woman (%)
Sexual Behavior - Males 18+ that ever had any sex with a man (%)
Sexual Behavior - Females 18+ that ever had vaginal sex with a man (%)
Sexual Behavior - Females 18+ that ever performed oral sex on a man (%)
Sexual Behavior - Females 18+ that ever had anal sex with a man (%)
Sexual Behavior - Females 18+ that ever had any kind of sex with a woman (%)
Sexual Behavior - Average age people first had sex
Sexual Behavior - Average number of female sex partners in lifetime (males 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of female vaginal sex partners in lifetime (males 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average age people first performed oral sex on a woman (18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of woman performed oral sex on in lifetime (18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male sex partners in lifetime (males 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male anal sex partners in lifetime (males 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average age people first performed oral sex on a man (18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male oral sex partners in lifetime (18+)
Sexual Behavior - People using protection when performing oral sex (%)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of times people have vaginal or anal sex a year
Sexual Behavior - People having sex without condom (%)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male sex partners in lifetime (females 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male vaginal sex partners in lifetime (females 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of female sex partners in lifetime (females 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Circumcised males 18+ (%)
Sleep Disorders - Average hours sleeping at night
Sleep Disorders - People that has trouble sleeping (%)
Smoking-Cigarette Use - People smoking cigarettes (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ having problems with smell (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ having problems with taste (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had wisdom teeth removed (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had tonsils teeth removed (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had a loss of consciousness because of a head injury (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had a broken nose or other serious injury to face or skull (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had two or more sinus infections (%)
Weight - Average height (inches)
Weight - Average weight (pounds)
Weight - Average BMI
Weight - People that are obese (%)
Weight - People that ever were obese (%)
Weight - People trying to lose weight (%)
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