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Old 08-20-2012, 12:21 PM
 
Location: Metro Phoenix, AZ USA
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No, I just think he means that this wasn't a dog that someone picked up at the shelter on a whim. It was a dog that someone had to pay a lot of money to a breeder for. It's not like the pit mixes that seem to make up about 60% of the dog population in the local shelters.
And, that rehoming purebred dogs is often easier, so there should be less need to just dump them somewhere.
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Old 08-20-2012, 12:56 PM
 
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No, I just think he means that this wasn't a dog that someone picked up at the shelter on a whim. It was a dog that someone had to pay a lot of money to a breeder for. It's not like the pit mixes that seem to make up about 60% of the dog population in the local shelters.
Purbred dogs end up in shelters quite often too. I volunteer for both a breed-specific rescue and an all-breed rescue and the breed-specific one gets more shelter dogs than they can handle. Backyard breeders, which are a major contributing factor to the abandoned animal problem in the valley, often breed two dogs of the same breed. Check Craigslist and you can find pugs, bulldogs, labs, chihuahuas, etc. Those are not coming from show breeders.

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And, that rehoming purebred dogs is often easier, so there should be less need to just dump them somewhere.
There's never a need to just dump an animal somewhere. People that do think that that's an answer aren't going to go to the trouble of rehoming a dog whether purebred or not. There are MANY healthy, purebred dogs (even puppies) in the valley that end up euthanized because no one wants them. Sad but true.

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Old 08-20-2012, 01:05 PM
 
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Purbred dogs end up in shelters quite often too. I volunteer for both a breed-specific rescue and an all-breed rescue and the breed-specific one gets more shelter dogs than they can handle. Backyard breeders, which are a major contributing factor to the abandoned animal problem in the valley, often breed two dogs of the same breed. Check Craigslist and you can find pugs, bulldogs, labs, chihuahuas, etc. Those are not coming from show breeders.
Indeed. There are many breed-specific rescues in Maricopa County, but the "supply" of abandoned animals never lets up. Many of these animals are from professional breeders, but a huge portion of them are from those irresponsible backyard breeders.
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Old 08-20-2012, 03:07 PM
 
Location: Metro Phoenix, AZ USA
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Apparently the ones the OP found aren't the only ones abandoned in Chandler parks:

2 dogs found abandoned in Chandler park

These two have been adopted, according to a follow up story.
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Old 08-20-2012, 04:22 PM
 
Location: Phoenix, AZ
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Purbred dogs end up in shelters quite often too. I volunteer for both a breed-specific rescue and an all-breed rescue and the breed-specific one gets more shelter dogs than they can handle. Backyard breeders, which are a major contributing factor to the abandoned animal problem in the valley, often breed two dogs of the same breed. Check Craigslist and you can find pugs, bulldogs, labs, chihuahuas, etc. Those are not coming from show breeders.

There's never a need to just dump an animal somewhere. People that do think that that's an answer aren't going to go to the trouble of rehoming a dog whether purebred or not. There are MANY healthy, purebred dogs (even puppies) in the valley that end up euthanized because no one wants them. Sad but true.
I believe that is all true, because I've seen that each time we've adopted our pets from a shelter (Animal Benefit Club).

However, I still don't believe you had a good reason to infer that Shadow91 suggested that abandoning dogs is acceptable just because he/she mentioned the dog was purebred. Shadow91 picked up two abandoned dogs and spent several days trying to find the owner and looked for an acceptable shelter for them. Why would someone go through the trouble to help abandoned dogs, and then post a whole thread about how terrible it is to abandon dogs, if they thought abandoning dogs was acceptable? That just makes no sense.
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Old 08-20-2012, 05:48 PM
 
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I believe that is all true, because I've seen that each time we've adopted our pets from a shelter (Animal Benefit Club).

However, I still don't believe you had a good reason to infer that Shadow91 suggested that abandoning dogs is acceptable just because he/she mentioned the dog was purebred. Shadow91 picked up two abandoned dogs and spent several days trying to find the owner and looked for an acceptable shelter for them. Why would someone go through the trouble to help abandoned dogs, and then post a whole thread about how terrible it is to abandon dogs, if they thought abandoning dogs was acceptable? That just makes no sense.
My point was that mentioning that the dogs were purebred was irrelevant. People need to be aware that purebred dogs typically face MORE adversity than mixed breeds due to breeding, shows, genetic problems, etc. and are not immune to neglect and abandonment. There are always purebred dogs on Craiglist given away for free or next to nothing only to end up as fight bait, abused, in a research lab, etc. Given the surprise surrounding the adandonment of these purebred dogs, I would say that's not common knowledge.

Check this out: phoenix pets classifieds "purebred" - craigslist Sad.

People don't get their dogs from breeders and pet stores because they want shelter dogs to die. They do so because they believe the breed they want isn't sitting in a valley shelter. It's a matter of education.

I didn't mean to offend. This is something I'm passionate about and if you knew how many good, healthy dogs, both purebred and mixed, are killed at "shelters" throughout the valley (and the country) you might lose your lunch.
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Old 08-20-2012, 06:30 PM
 
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Another reason (if not stated prior) people go to breeders is because they want puppies. Of course this leads irresponsible and uneducated people to giving up the dog after it grows up and is destructive or not 'cute' anymore because they didn't train it properly.

Quite a number of people look at adult dogs as 'set in their ways' which couldn't be further from the truth. If anything, I think adult dogs are easier to train since they have more developed brains and have experienced more. My dog is a perfect example to contradict this type of thinking... she's a stubborn breed (Siberian Husky), got her at 6 years old, has never seen the inside of a house, lived amongst dozens of other huskies all of her life, and never been on a leash ever. I was able to crate train, leash train, house train, and get her acclimated to a life with humans (in lieu of other dogs) in less than a month. It only took me 15 minutes a day and she is a perfect little pup even at 11 years old now!

Education is definitely key on people looking to adopt.
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Old 08-21-2012, 11:19 PM
 
Location: Chandler, AZ
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yes, there are many chihuahuas in the shelters, something I don't understand since I have one and can't imagine not having her. But what I meant was that the dogs I found, the one was a purebred and the other a mix (his puppy). It doesn't matter if it were a mutt, I would have still taken it in out of the heat and fed it and kept it until I could either find the owner or a home for it. It just sickens me that people think so little of their pets to do this to them.
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