South scottsdale is this a nice area? (Phoenix, Tempe: low income, condo)

[Mass hole in Cali]

The neighborhood is Scottsdale Haciendas, east Roosevelt and granite reef road. Seems to be older homes but I like that it has a Scottsdale address and scottsdale schools. I am concerned about the trailer park just south and also the proximity to Tempe which is too college for me.


Would you live here with kids for a quiet and safe life?

[observer53]

South Scottsdale has a lower income demographic, but it's fine. IIRC, someone I used to know lives there, and he wouldn't live anywhere that wasn't generally safe. I would not worry about a trailer park just because it's a trailer park. You won't have any influence from the ASU area over there, either. I will say, just for the record, that you know very little about Tempe as a whole if you think the whole city is "too college". But, that's for another discussion.

[Mass hole in Cali]

By lower income, do you mean poor and trashy or do you just mean lower middle class
I make like $45k so I guess that's lower income


And yeah I have been to Tempe and you feel the ASU influence and also Mill Ave is a big turn off.


It's a decent place for families? What's the neighborhood like? I just don't want somewhere ghetto with tweakers, loiterers bums and such and I don't want to be in a barrio.

[observer53]

Originally Posted by Mass hole in Cali

By lower income, do you mean poor and trashy or do you just mean lower middle class
I make like $45k so I guess that's lower income


And yeah I have been to Tempe and you feel the ASU influence and also Mill Ave is a big turn off.


It's a decent place for families? What's the neighborhood like? I just don't want somewhere ghetto with tweakers, loiterers bums and such and I don't want to be in a barrio.

No, I don't mean poor and trashy, I mean lower income, lower middle class. (Particularly compared with other parts of Scottsdale). Nor is that area "ghetto" (my least favorite term on C-D) or a barrio.

I think that area is fine, as I said. It's often suggested that one visit an area at different times (daytime, weekends, nights) to get a feel for what it is like.

I suspect you haven't been below Broadway, or maybe Southern, in Tempe, if you don't like Mill Avenue or the immediate ASU area and can "feel the ASU influence" when you go to Tempe. But, that's another topic, and as I said, the area you are looking at is not going to be affected by ASU.

[azdr0710]

obs 53 is being very polite.....

Tempe is MUCH more than ASU....it has many square miles, only a very few of which in one corner of the city seem influenced by the school....check out south Tempe.....

as suggested, you do need to simply hang out in Scottsdale Haciendas at all different times of the day and days of the week....walk around...are yards neat and seem well-kept?....do residents seem to have pride in their neighborhood?....kids playing around?....cars up on blocks?....sofas on the front porch?....homes maintained?....trash blowing around?....

crime can happen anywhere, you know....

spend time there and get a feel for the vibe....drop in at the local Circle K.....

[Jukesgrrl]

I read an article about South Scottsdale in Phoenix magazine once and they recommended it as Scottsdale schools without the fashionistas many people don't like about Scottsdale. Yes, the home stock is older and many in the ranch style, which many young families and retirees favor today, as they tend to be smaller homes on bigger lots than you'll find in newer developments in North Scottsdale that jam in big homes cheek to jowl. Their research showed that a lot of educators lived in the area and ASU staff members who are on the lower pay scale than profs and administrators who can afford to live in the areas closest to ASU. They also touted access to Papago Park as a huge plus for walking, bicycling, hiking, playgrounds, etc. Phoenix Zoo is there, too.

[deboinair]

Originally Posted by Mass hole in Cali

By lower income, do you mean poor and trashy or do you just mean lower middle class
I make like $45k so I guess that's lower income


And yeah I have been to Tempe and you feel the ASU influence and also Mill Ave is a big turn off.


It's a decent place for families? What's the neighborhood like? I just don't want somewhere ghetto with tweakers, loiterers bums and such and I don't want to be in a barrio.

Ok. You really have to watch who you ask about areas in Phoenix. Some people don't know what low income and a ghetto neighborhood is. I mean what they call the ghetto here would be a decent neighborhood in Miami. lol

I live in South Scottsdale. I'm in the Miller and E. McDowell area. It's the furthest from low income. It's like five minutes from Tempe Marketplace. Good place to dine and shop. I thought about buying a condo down the street from where I am staying, but I decided to move to North Phoenix to live in a house.

[mikelkaz69]

I've lived in south Scottsdale for the past 10 years, not far from the area you described, I love it. Great location, close to the 101 & 202, close to old town Scottsdale and Tempe Marketplace. It is a lower demographic than north/central Scottsdale but for the most part there are lots of good people in the area, the schools are good and it's affordable. I have never not felt safe here. I do see a few homeless people now and again but you see them everywhere nowadays in most of Phoenix.