Moving from CA to Phoenix (Scottsdale, Chandler: apartments, neighborhoods, theater)

[TempeAZnative]

You'll find your diversity and multiculturalism in South Phoenix and Maryvale, but that's not what you are really looking for. So you are really looking for those buzzwords in Gilbert, Goodyear, Scottsdale they'll be plenty of virtual signaling whites around you.

[Tall Traveler]

Originally Posted by thatguy950

IME people who go looking for places “without racism” are the type who find “racism” in everything even when none exists

OMG look at that WHITE cup! Patriarchy!

In the same vein, when you see "Hate has no home here" sign in a yard, you know without doubt there's haters in that house.

[skydude24]

One other thing to consider is that 85043 will soon be connected to Ahwatukee via the Loop 202 which should be finished later this year. This would open up other options as well.

[Marv1985]

This African-American baby-boomer moved here to Chandler 2 1/2 years ago after 60+ years in Los Angeles and there's no shortage of diversity or multiculturalism else here in East Mesa either, and my quality of life has skyrocketed thanks to tons of affordable housing compared to RE prices throughout California courtesy of decades liberal policies., and MUCH lower prices for gasoline, groceries, car insurance, housing and other staples.


The cost of living here is substantially lower across the board.

[veritased]

Marv201, where did you live in LA ... you must have seen it change a lot in 60 years. I came to LA in early 80's and it has changed in those 30+ years.

[RMESMH]

Originally Posted by Rehabilitated_troll

Ugh. CA is the most backwards racist place ever but one place it does excel is hypocrisy.

Try to imagine that all you are fed from politicians and the media is how racist your neighbor to the southeast is because of how they enforce immigration. So if you're getting ready to move and you're anxious about the daily cross burnings on every corner and posses of white people on horses carrying "assault weapons" with "high capacity magazines". Sheriff Joe is rounding up all the brown people to throw them into concentration camps wearing pink jump suits.

I'm (kinda) being facetious here. We really do hear this type of rhetoric quite frequently. Ex. Moonbeam called AZ a "giant backdoor for terrorism". I apologize for turning this into a political issue, I'm sure the OP is a nice fellow just looking for relocation advice.

Background: I'm a malcontent Californian waiting to escape this hellhole.

Nothing that Moonbeam says that leaves me SMH surprises me (not surprising re coming out of his mouth).

[Marv1985]

I lived about 1.5 miles west of the USC/Coliseum area until I turned 14 years old in 1966 before we moved farther west into the very nice Leimert Park area after the 1965 Watts riots, and lived there until the summer of 2016 before moving to AZ.


The public schools used to be great but have been horrible for well over 30 years.

The Phoenix suburbs are great places to live and raise a family and especially Chandler (lived there for two years), as well as Gilbert with excellent public schools to boot
There's plenty of affordable housing in both cities (which will never exist again in Calif. unless the liberals demolish ALL of their anti-development and environmental extremism policies which have wrecked the state and destroyed what's left of the middle class citizens who've yet to leave for whatever reason including a MUCH higher quality of life which will await them when they do leave.

[veritased]

Thanks Marv201, interesting insight. Yes my first boss in CA lived just east of USC in a nice old Victorian house.
I commuted to USC myself for evening classes, during the post Rodney King riots in the 90s.
Even with the problems in LA at that time, I felt even those days were vastly preferable to just 20-30 years later.

[Casey73]

Originally Posted by veritased

I truly hope this California crap does not infect AZ, because that's why I am escaping California. How can Chinese workers in SV experience racism, when in many SV communities they are the majority, and speak around you in only their language ?

No, racism was not a thing ever discussed in California in the 80s and 90s, when all of us got along like friends, and then some angry progressive movement took hold, and the place is gone cuckoo for cocoa puffs. Then it became a self fulfilling prophecy where all the races started pointing fingers at each other.

Like I said in another thread, I get it if you Arizona natives don't want California kooks to come and mess up your fine state.

Precisely. I've lived in the East Valley of Phoenix metro for 38 years. I don't mind if they come here as long as they assimilate and don't try to make Arizona another failed state like California has become. I also would prefer it if the adapt safer driving techniques.

As for racism, the only racism I've seen much of is the attitude of some of the many blacks that have been coming into my area of Chandler in the past two years. I've seen more butt cracks and people shopping in pajamas in the last year than I can count. Then there are the loud ebonic phone conversations in the aisles that everyone gets to hear whether you want to or not. Of course, parking in handicapped spaces is okay, even if you don't have proper docs, if you are black with an attitude. And last but not least, many black don't understand what crosswalks are about.

My neighborhood is around 20% Asian, mostly Chinese and Indian. They are mostly educated family people who make good neighbors and citizens.

[Casey73]

Originally Posted by veritased

Just curious, why does race matter ?

Race didn't matter until identity politics became the prime driver of the democrat party under Barack Hussein Obama, the first half black president.