09-07-2009, 08:06 AM
Location: Sonoran Desert
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Zakboy
Sounds like the city of goodyear wants to put surprise on the back burner, no?
I don't think they are in competition - too far apart in too many ways. Goodyear is clearly after higher end amenities and something that makes it unique (besides high taxes and utilities), but I don't think it is driven by competition with Surprise. Maybe Scottsdale, LOL!
09-07-2009, 08:35 AM
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As far as in 10 years from now, who will be bigger (in your big picture) Goodyear or Surprise?
09-07-2009, 08:39 AM
Location: Sonoran Desert
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As far as in 10 years from now, who will be bigger (in your big picture) Goodyear or Surprise?
Surprise. They've got a 10 year jump on Goodyear.
09-07-2009, 08:47 AM
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To ponderosa:
Why do you say that? From all the threads about goodyear vs. surprise everyone says that goodyear is gonna (maybe
) lead?!
09-07-2009, 09:16 AM
Location: Sonoran Desert
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To ponderosa:
Why do you say that? From all the threads about goodyear vs. surprise everyone says that goodyear is gonna (maybe
) lead?!
You are asking about bigger as if bigger is the best measure. Buckeye will be bigger than both of them put together eventually, but I wouldn't choose Buckeye right now. Goodyear is and will continue to be a pricier place with a more upscale reputation than Surprise I think. But bigger or better, who knows or cares? To be honest, I don't get the gist of your questions anyway. Are you trying to decide which place your home will appreciate more? If so, the rate is likely to be very similar.
09-07-2009, 11:11 AM
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Goodyear will eventually be bigger than Surprise. Surprise is running out of real estate to annex, while Goodyear will be heading south almost to I-8. Buckeye will be larger than both.
09-07-2009, 11:14 AM
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Goodyear will eventually be bigger than Surprise. Surprise is running out of real estate to annex, while Goodyear will be heading south almost to I-8. Buckeye will be larger than both.
He asked if so in ten years. Yes, Goodyear is only about 10% developed and the vast majority of the city planning area is south of Estrella, not around I-10. I think there is going to have to be a freeway down there first, though.
09-08-2009, 08:02 PM
Location: Sierra Vista, AZ
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A decade?
They just started planning for it in 2006, LOL! A decade ago, Estrella Mountain Ranch was but a small mirage; the area wasn't anywhere near capable of supporting a full fledge mall. However, the planned grand opening of Estrella Falls (the new Westcor regional shopping center/mall) is scheduled for 2011. My parents live near the area so I'm sure I'll be a shopper from time to time at that mall.
Gee I moved to Goodyear in 1998, Estrella Mountain Ranch was there, but smaller, and all the talk was of the New Mall along where the Big Baby was.
Macy's and Nordstrum were supposedly coming yada yada yada. Since I moved away in 2005 I guess I must have imagined it
09-09-2009, 01:34 AM
Location: Phoenix
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Gee I moved to Goodyear in 1998, Estrella Mountain Ranch was there, but smaller, and all the talk was of the New Mall along where the Big Baby was.
Macy's and Nordstrum were supposedly coming yada yada yada. Since I moved away in 2005 I guess I must have imagined it
I think you did imagine those conversations. As someone wrote before; there has always been talk of how it would be nice to have a mall somewhere west of Desert Sky, or as it was known in its former years, Westridge. However, Goodyear today has 52,000 people. Can you guess the population in 1998? And yes there EMR was "there." But it was still a "canvas" and was nothing compared to today. There was no way the region would have sustained a mall back then. The talk of the Nordstrom, etc was for Arrowhead and not some alfalfa field on Litchfield Rd. or Estrella Parkway.
09-09-2009, 06:44 AM
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I think you did imagine those conversations. As someone wrote before; there has always been talk of how it would be nice to have a mall somewhere west of Desert Sky, or as it was known in its former years, Westridge. However, Goodyear today has 52,000 people. Can you guess the population in 1998? And yes there EMR was "there." But it was still a "canvas" and was nothing compared to today. There was no way the region would have sustained a mall back then. The talk of the Nordstrom, etc was for Arrowhead and not some alfalfa field on Litchfield Rd. or Estrella Parkway.
I lived in Estrella in 1998 and we were all getting excited over the new Walmart and restaurants that were going up - in Avondale! We would have been happy to just have a gas station nearby then. I do agree with Boompa to a slight degree in that as long as I can remember, there has been rumor and talk of a mall in the SW valley and Goodyear long range plans called for one. But there were no approved plans until a couple years ago. BTW, I will be really surprised if a mall opens up in 2011 out here or ever. The economy is going to have to heat up in a hurry to make that feasible. And the whole mall format idea is losing steam although Goodyear's mall was supposed to be the new open air style.
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House heating fuel used in apartments - Utility gas (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Bottled, tank, or LP gas (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Electricity (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Fuel oil, kerosene, etc. (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Coal or coke (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Wood (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Solar energy (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Other fuel (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - No fuel used (%)
Armed forces status - In Armed Forces (%)
Armed forces status - Civilian (%)
Armed forces status - Civilian - Veteran (%)
Armed forces status - Civilian - Nonveteran (%)
Fatal accidents locations in years 2005-2021
Fatal accidents locations in 2005
Fatal accidents locations in 2006
Fatal accidents locations in 2007
Fatal accidents locations in 2008
Fatal accidents locations in 2009
Fatal accidents locations in 2010
Fatal accidents locations in 2011
Fatal accidents locations in 2012
Fatal accidents locations in 2013
Fatal accidents locations in 2014
Fatal accidents locations in 2015
Fatal accidents locations in 2016
Fatal accidents locations in 2017
Fatal accidents locations in 2018
Fatal accidents locations in 2019
Fatal accidents locations in 2020
Fatal accidents locations in 2021
Alcohol use - People drinking some alcohol every month (%)
Alcohol use - People not drinking at all (%)
Alcohol use - Average days/month drinking alcohol
Alcohol use - Average drinks/week
Alcohol use - Average days/year people drink much
Audiometry - Average condition of hearing (%)
Audiometry - People that can hear a whisper from across a quiet room (%)
Audiometry - People that can hear normal voice from across a quiet room (%)
Audiometry - Ears ringing, roaring, buzzing (%)
Audiometry - Had a job exposure to loud noise (%)
Audiometry - Had off-work exposure to loud noise (%)
Blood Pressure & Cholesterol - Has high blood pressure (%)
Blood Pressure & Cholesterol - Checking blood pressure at home (%)
Blood Pressure & Cholesterol - Frequently checking blood cholesterol (%)
Blood Pressure & Cholesterol - Has high cholesterol level (%)
Consumer Behavior - Money monthly spent on food at supermarket/grocery store
Consumer Behavior - Money monthly spent on food at other stores
Consumer Behavior - Money monthly spent on eating out
Consumer Behavior - Money monthly spent on carryout/delivered foods
Consumer Behavior - Income spent on food at supermarket/grocery store (%)
Consumer Behavior - Income spent on food at other stores (%)
Consumer Behavior - Income spent on eating out (%)
Consumer Behavior - Income spent on carryout/delivered foods (%)
Current Health Status - General health condition (%)
Current Health Status - Blood donors (%)
Current Health Status - Has blood ever tested for HIV virus (%)
Current Health Status - Left-handed people (%)
Dermatology - People using sunscreen (%)
Diabetes - Diabetics (%)
Diabetes - Had a blood test for high blood sugar (%)
Diabetes - People taking insulin (%)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Diet health (%)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Milk product consumption (# of products/month)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Meals not home prepared (#/week)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Meals from fast food or pizza place (#/week)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Ready-to-eat foods (#/month)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Frozen meals/pizza (#/month)
Drug Use - People that ever used marijuana or hashish (%)
Drug Use - Ever used hard drugs (%)
Drug Use - Ever used any form of cocaine (%)
Drug Use - Ever used heroin (%)
Drug Use - Ever used methamphetamine (%)
Health Insurance - People covered by health insurance (%)
Kidney Conditions-Urology - Avg. # of times urinating at night
Medical Conditions - People with asthma (%)
Medical Conditions - People with anemia (%)
Medical Conditions - People with psoriasis (%)
Medical Conditions - People with overweight (%)
Medical Conditions - Elderly people having difficulties in thinking or remembering (%)
Medical Conditions - People who ever received blood transfusion (%)
Medical Conditions - People having trouble seeing even with glass/contacts (%)
Medical Conditions - People with arthritis (%)
Medical Conditions - People with gout (%)
Medical Conditions - People with congestive heart failure (%)
Medical Conditions - People with coronary heart disease (%)
Medical Conditions - People with angina pectoris (%)
Medical Conditions - People who ever had heart attack (%)
Medical Conditions - People who ever had stroke (%)
Medical Conditions - People with emphysema (%)
Medical Conditions - People with thyroid problem (%)
Medical Conditions - People with chronic bronchitis (%)
Medical Conditions - People with any liver condition (%)
Medical Conditions - People who ever had cancer or malignancy (%)
Mental Health - People who have little interest in doing things (%)
Mental Health - People feeling down, depressed, or hopeless (%)
Mental Health - People who have trouble sleeping or sleeping too much (%)
Mental Health - People feeling tired or having little energy (%)
Mental Health - People with poor appetite or overeating (%)
Mental Health - People feeling bad about themself (%)
Mental Health - People who have trouble concentrating on things (%)
Mental Health - People moving or speaking slowly or too fast (%)
Mental Health - People having thoughts they would be better off dead (%)
Oral Health - Average years since last visit a dentist
Oral Health - People embarrassed because of mouth (%)
Oral Health - People with gum disease (%)
Oral Health - General health of teeth and gums (%)
Oral Health - Average days a week using dental floss/device
Oral Health - Average days a week using mouthwash for dental problem
Oral Health - Average number of teeth
Pesticide Use - Households using pesticides to control insects (%)
Pesticide Use - Households using pesticides to kill weeds (%)
Physical Activity - People doing vigorous-intensity work activities (%)
Physical Activity - People doing moderate-intensity work activities (%)
Physical Activity - People walking or bicycling (%)
Physical Activity - People doing vigorous-intensity recreational activities (%)
Physical Activity - People doing moderate-intensity recreational activities (%)
Physical Activity - Average hours a day doing sedentary activities
Physical Activity - Average hours a day watching TV or videos
Physical Activity - Average hours a day using computer
Physical Functioning - People having limitations keeping them from working (%)
Physical Functioning - People limited in amount of work they can do (%)
Physical Functioning - People that need special equipment to walk (%)
Physical Functioning - People experiencing confusion/memory problems (%)
Physical Functioning - People requiring special healthcare equipment (%)
Prescription Medications - Average number of prescription medicines taking
Preventive Aspirin Use - Adults 40+ taking low-dose aspirin (%)
Reproductive Health - Vaginal deliveries (%)
Reproductive Health - Cesarean deliveries (%)
Reproductive Health - Deliveries resulted in a live birth (%)
Reproductive Health - Pregnancies resulted in a delivery (%)
Reproductive Health - Women breastfeeding newborns (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that had a hysterectomy (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that had both ovaries removed (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that have ever taken birth control pills (%)
Reproductive Health - Women taking birth control pills (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that have ever used Depo-Provera or injectables (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that have ever used female hormones (%)
Sexual Behavior - People 18+ that ever had sex (vaginal, anal, or oral) (%)
Sexual Behavior - Males 18+ that ever had vaginal sex with a woman (%)
Sexual Behavior - Males 18+ that ever performed oral sex on a woman (%)
Sexual Behavior - Males 18+ that ever had anal sex with a woman (%)
Sexual Behavior - Males 18+ that ever had any sex with a man (%)
Sexual Behavior - Females 18+ that ever had vaginal sex with a man (%)
Sexual Behavior - Females 18+ that ever performed oral sex on a man (%)
Sexual Behavior - Females 18+ that ever had anal sex with a man (%)
Sexual Behavior - Females 18+ that ever had any kind of sex with a woman (%)
Sexual Behavior - Average age people first had sex
Sexual Behavior - Average number of female sex partners in lifetime (males 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of female vaginal sex partners in lifetime (males 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average age people first performed oral sex on a woman (18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of woman performed oral sex on in lifetime (18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male sex partners in lifetime (males 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male anal sex partners in lifetime (males 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average age people first performed oral sex on a man (18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male oral sex partners in lifetime (18+)
Sexual Behavior - People using protection when performing oral sex (%)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of times people have vaginal or anal sex a year
Sexual Behavior - People having sex without condom (%)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male sex partners in lifetime (females 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male vaginal sex partners in lifetime (females 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of female sex partners in lifetime (females 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Circumcised males 18+ (%)
Sleep Disorders - Average hours sleeping at night
Sleep Disorders - People that has trouble sleeping (%)
Smoking-Cigarette Use - People smoking cigarettes (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ having problems with smell (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ having problems with taste (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had wisdom teeth removed (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had tonsils teeth removed (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had a loss of consciousness because of a head injury (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had a broken nose or other serious injury to face or skull (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had two or more sinus infections (%)
Weight - Average height (inches)
Weight - Average weight (pounds)
Weight - Average BMI
Weight - People that are obese (%)
Weight - People that ever were obese (%)
Weight - People trying to lose weight (%)
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They just started planning for it in 2006, LOL! A decade ago, Estrella Mountain Ranch was but a small mirage; the area wasn't anywhere near capable of supporting a full fledge mall. However, the planned grand opening of Estrella Falls (the new Westcor regional shopping center/mall) is scheduled for 2011. My parents live near the area so I'm sure I'll be a shopper from time to time at that mall. 
