Will PA ban hand-held devices while driving? (Pittsburgh, Penn: maintenance, moving)

[MeinGlanzendMotorrad]

"Those who would sacrifice liberty for security deserve neither."

[SlurmsMcKenzie]

Originally Posted by MeinGlanzendMotorrad

"Those who would sacrifice liberty for security deserve neither."

The original quote: "Those who would give up essential Liberty, to purchase a little temporary Safety, deserve neither Liberty nor Safety."

Is this really an "essential" liberty?

[BrianTH]

Originally Posted by trlstreet

The original quote: "Those who would give up essential Liberty, to purchase a little temporary Safety, deserve neither Liberty nor Safety."

Is this really an "essential" liberty?

Turns out Ben was a pretty reasonable guy.

[Q-tip motha]

Originally Posted by trlstreet

I agree with you in principle. Common sense, however, is a trait many drivers seem to lack these days. If a law is what it takes to make my family and me even a little bit safer, I am all for it.

I agree with your statement. I'm all from preventing further government control in most areas of my life, however there are too many people out there who have little common sense or an understanding of how their actions can potentially harm themselves or others.

I'm all for allowing people to harm themselves in any manner possible. Do drugs, huff glue, eat paint chips, drink too much, eat too much, use power tools without protective gear, ride a motorcycle without a helmet...heck ride a motorcycle period, or decide that you're too sick/old and want to be euthanized. Whatever you want to do to yourself...best of luck to you. When that destructive behavior begins to harm others everything possible must be done to prevent it or punish it when it occurs. Until the car can drive itself texting or talking on the phone while driving should be illegal. This is common sense.

The poster talking about "essential liberties" (as if texting or talking on the phone falls under that definition) strikes me as being very idealistic.

[chielgirl]

I hope so.

[MeinGlanzendMotorrad]

Originally Posted by trlstreet

The original quote: "Those who would give up essential Liberty, to purchase a little temporary Safety, deserve neither Liberty nor Safety."

Is this really an "essential" liberty?

Sometimes a little condensation never hurts.

Yes, the freedom to communicate as you wish is essential.

[BrianTH]

Originally Posted by MeinGlanzendMotorrad

Yes, the freedom to communicate as you wish is essential.

I'm sure Daniel Montano would agree.

[FreightTrainRunning]

Originally Posted by MeinGlanzendMotorrad

Sometimes a little condensation never hurts.

Yes, the freedom to communicate as you wish is essential.

You'd be perfectly free to communicate as much as you want, just not while driving a dangerous vehicle at high speeds. The same way that you're free to drink as much as you want, just not before you drive. There's no civil rights issue here, it's a simple safety issue.

[bradjl2009]

Originally Posted by MeinGlanzendMotorrad

Sometimes a little condensation never hurts.

Yes, the freedom to communicate as you wish is essential.

Because the Constitution is meant to give you the right to talk on the phone and text on it while driving a 2 ton machine .


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KVQg8h_JmkY

[MeinGlanzendMotorrad]

Yes, an adult making a phone call is the same as a car full of giggling teenage girls. Precisely the same.