point breeze research--would love opinions! (Penn, Homewood: live in, to move, car)

[selltheburgh]

There's also a huge difference in what you get for that price besides location and neighbors. The Condition of the property varies tremendously.

[Hopes]

Originally Posted by alleghenyangel

I realize the contrast between N. Point Breeze and Homewood is intense, but given the transition between the neighborhoods is only a railroad track, I think the differences in crime are probably mostly psychological.

Only? That manmade barrier might be psychological but it mentally and literally hinders people from crossing over.

These violent crime statistics are a decade old but the differences between the rail road tracks are huge.

Part One: Pittsburgh neighborhood crime statistics

Keep in mind that more of Homewood South borders North Point Breeze than Homewood West does.

Homewood West
Homicide 0
Rape 3
Robbery 20
Aggrevated Assult 33
Burglary 19

Homewood South
Homicide 3
Rape 1
Robbery 47
Aggrevated Assault 96
Burglary 51

Homewood North
Homicide 1
Rape 4
Robbery 39
Aggrevated Assault 82
Burglary 95


North Point Breeze
Homicide 1
Rape 0
Robbery 10
Aggrevated Assult 10
Burglary 22

South Point Breeze
Homicide 0
Rape 1
Robbery 11
Aggrevated Assault 5
Burglary 41

[eschaton]

Originally Posted by alleghenyangel

North Point Breeze isn't exactly cheap. It may seem cheap compared to Squirrel Hill or Shadyside, but it's still one of the more pricey neighborhoods in the city, and I'm not sure the cost of living there is justified by the quality of life. If I were seriously to consider buying a $100k+ home in North Point Breeze, I'd move a block or two over into Homewood and get a house for $10,000, instead. I realize the contrast between N. Point Breeze and Homewood is intense, but given the transition between the neighborhoods is only a railroad track, I think the differences in crime are probably mostly psychological.

The transition is a railroad track and the East Busway. Besides that, within the residential area, only N Dallas and N Homewood actually connect to South Homewood. N Braddock and Fifth too, of course, but they are on the outskirts where few people live.

Plus, as I've said elsewhere, North Point Breeze is a great deal for parents, because it's the only part of the city where you can get reasonably cheap Victorian houses and send your kids to Squirrel Hill schools.

[robrobrob]

Originally Posted by alleghenyangel

North Point Breeze isn't exactly cheap. It may seem cheap compared to Squirrel Hill or Shadyside, but it's still one of the more pricey neighborhoods in the city, and I'm not sure the cost of living there is justified by the quality of life. If I were seriously to consider buying a $100k+ home in North Point Breeze, I'd move a block or two over into Homewood and get a house for $10,000, instead. I realize the contrast between N. Point Breeze and Homewood is intense, but given the transition between the neighborhoods is only a railroad track, I think the differences in crime are probably mostly psychological.

I agree. I also don't think 100,000 homes are all that common in North Point Breeze.

Personally, I would rather live in Highland Park than North Point Breeze. Or I would sacrifice the size of the house to live on one of the lesser streets of South Point Breeze.

[wpipkins]

Originally Posted by I_Like_Spam

I think its proximity to Wilkinsburg and East Liberty is also problematic to a lot of folks.

Ten years ago or so, a resident of Jonathan Court out there walked to an ATM on Homewood Ave., was robbed and shot to death by several youths.

It seems like a problematic kind of place for street crime that folks would have to stay more on their toes than in other nearby neighborhoods.

Who in the hell would walk to that ATM on Homewood Avenue...... If that was the last ATM on earth I would not use it.

[wpipkins]

Originally Posted by Squeamish

Homewood Avenue runs through North Point Breeze as well as Homewood and elsewhere. This incident probably happened in North Point Breeze, which would mean it is spillover crime due to proximity.

There is only one ATM on Homewood Ave. Its at the PNC bank just past Hamilton Avenue. I knew not to use that atm way back in the 1990's when I took classes at the Homewood CCAC....

[BrianTH]

Originally Posted by robrobrob

I also don't think 100,000 homes are all that common in North Point Breeze.

In which direction did you have in mind?

Point Breeze North Recently Sold Homes and Recently Sold Homes in Point Breeze North Pittsburgh - Zillow

[robrobrob]

Originally Posted by BrianTH

In which direction did you have in mind?

Point Breeze North Recently Sold Homes and Recently Sold Homes in Point Breeze North Pittsburgh - Zillow

I am saying that most of the homes are more than a 100,000. Right now 2 houses are on the MLS under a 120,000 in North Point Breeze and these aren't single families houses they are townhouses.

[ctkalino]

I drive through North Point Breeze all of the time. I like its location (proximity to East Liberty and Squirrel Hill) and it always strikes me as a nice neighborhood with good housing for a deal. However, I would not consider moving my family there solely because of its proximity to Homewood. It's truly a shame.

[I_Like_Spam]

Originally Posted by wpipkins

Who in the hell would walk to that ATM on Homewood Avenue...... If that was the last ATM on earth I would not use it.

This victim lived only a 5 minutes walk away the ATM, and it was at night so he may not have wanted to move his car to drive to shadyside.