Pittsburgh 3rd worst city to Drive in US.. (California: insurance, credit)

[bradjl2009]

Originally Posted by track2514

The title of the list is "Worst Cities for Driving," and I was pointing that driving in Pittsburgh is easier and more pleasant than driving in cities with major traffic problems and mega-highways. I do agree that Pittsburgh is not a good city for cycling, green transportation, or walking, but what does that have to do with being one of the "Worst Cities for Driving?"

I agree with you. Here is what the "article" said about Pittsburgh driving (when it related to nothing about driving).

Data shows that Pittsburgh has one of the highest non-green driving scores with high CO2 emissions. That hasn't stopped motorists from declaring war on cyclists. Despite several fatal accidents, one bike advocate quoted by the Pittsburgh Post-Gazette says many drivers view bikers as "the equivalent of a moving pothole."

It may mean we're bad in other areas but I don't see what being a bad city to bike in has to do with driving a car.

[ditchdigger]

It was back a few months ago, before the cold weather. I was driving north on 60 (which is of course, now west on 376), just past where White Swan Park used to be, where it widens out to three lanes. There was this couple, and they were driving at the speed limit, but they were in the middle lane! I didn't know which side to pass them on.

Worse yet, they had a rack on the back bumper with two bikes. But they were driving an SUV!

I didn't know whether to admire them or abhor them....

[Cindi Waters]

Originally Posted by ferraris

Pittsburgh is the only area where I've ever seen actual stop signs at highway on ramps. So it doesn't surprise me when someone stops at an on-ramp, even if there's no sign, since they are conditioned to think it's acceptable (and honestly, at times it is). I think the Pittsburgh area has much shorter on ramps with less visibility than most other cities.

I have never seen anything like it with ramps in Pittsburgh. I am not a timid driver, but I sure have learned to be afraid of driving at night in Pittsburgh, especially entering highways and the short distance at some points from one highway to another highway.

Well, Morgantown also takes a cake when it comes to road conditions. But nothing like Pittsburgh ramps. Be in fear.

[Serentiy]

No way. DC is by FAR the worst city to drive in EVER. Lived there for 5 years. OMGosh...lines of traffic for miles--EVERYWHERE. Lines of people---EVERYWHERE. Accidents, crazy drunks, young kids with music so loud they can't hear anything around them, weird one-way streets that take you into...guess what....MORE traffic. I actually sold my car when I lived there and took the subway. It's the ONLY way to travel in that place. Pittsburgh is an absolute dream in comparison --even during rush hour

[Caladium]

Originally Posted by h_curtis

Data shows that Pittsburgh has one of the highest non-green driving scores with high CO2 emissions. That hasn't stopped motorists from declaring war on cyclists. Despite several fatal accidents, one bike advocate quoted by the Pittsburgh Post-Gazette says many drivers view bikers as "the equivalent of a moving pothole."

This would make Pittsburgh one of the worst cities for cycling, not for driving.

I haven't done all the much driving in Pittsburgh, but it never seemed that scary to me. Some of the hills seems a little treacherous when it's icy, but that's about it. Then again, I don't think I've encountered too many of these stop signs on the ramps, so I haven't had the full experience yet.

IMO, just another dumb list that tried to throw a new city into the typical mix to attract some new readers.

[gmagoo]

Originally Posted by h_curtis

Data shows that Pittsburgh has one of the highest non-green driving scores with high CO2 emissions. That hasn't stopped motorists from declaring war on cyclists. Despite several fatal accidents, one bike advocate quoted by the Pittsburgh Post-Gazette says many drivers view bikers as "the equivalent of a moving pothole."

We no doubt have huge CO2 emissions with all the huge SUV/Pickup numbers. It really is shocking when you leave here and come back to see all those primitive giant vehicles. Maybe it is the weight problem that makes people want them so they can fit in there.

Forget about the SUV/Pickups, everybody has them. I think the fact that people who work in and around the city tend to live 20-30 miles away plays a role in our high CO2 emissions. People spending 45 minutes to an hour just to drive to work makes no sense.

[I_Like_Spam]

Originally Posted by gmagoo

Forget about the SUV/Pickups, everybody has them. I think the fact that people who work in and around the city tend to live 20-30 miles away plays a role in our high CO2 emissions. People spending 45 minutes to an hour just to drive to work makes no sense.

There may be something to that.

With the increases in communications technology, placing new jobs out closer to where the people live instead of concentrating them in large cities might well have a lot of merit.

[SteelCityRising]

Originally Posted by I_Like_Spam

There may be something to that.

With the increases in communications technology, placing new jobs out closer to where the people live instead of concentrating them in large cities might well have a lot of merit.

Or we could simply increase our job density in the urban core and either find better ways of bring mass transit out to the suburbs or enticing more suburbanites to move into the city.

[gmagoo]

The new apartments/lofts or whatever that are being built downtown is very encouraging.

[WPANative]

Originally Posted by Cindi Waters

I have never seen anything like it with ramps in Pittsburgh. I am not a timid driver

Be in fear.

You are a timid driver, like so many other people in this region. Get over it or stay off the road.