Sorry, just gotta vent. (Pittsburgh, Republic: credit, neighborhoods, buy)

[Hopes]

Originally Posted by airwave09

I hope you get a $50 ticket.

I won't. It's a complimentary space, not a legally enforceable space.

[Hopes]

Originally Posted by UKyank

I love those hybrid/green car parking spaces. They're up front & usually empty & I know there's no actual law that you can get ticketed for parking in them

Exactly. I have never seen one, but I'll purposely park in it if I see one. Not for convenience. On principle.

[greg42]

Heh. I've seen a couple hybrid/alt fuel spaces, lower level of EastSide development near (where else?) Whole Foods. It's been a while and I never really noticed if it was always adhered to or not, seemed like perhaps not. That parking lot is jammed much of the time and I could see people getting frustrated. Still, they are not exactly up front. They are down by the Starbucks. At the Wexford Whole Foods they actually have two charging points for electric vehicles. Probably could use each one from any of several spaces around it. I leave a space open near it just in case, although there's no signage about it at all and I think I've seen a car plugged in once or twice. It's just as easy to get a space a few more feet away, not a big deal there.

Giant Eagle has the new and expectant mothers spaces.

The Sheetz no van/suv spots are so they can maintain a clear view from inside.

Spaces for the disabled, I would err on the side of assuming the person has a problem as long as they have a placard or plate. I don't feel like I witness much if any abuse to these but I'm not sure. Normally I just see a car parked in one from time to time, and it typically has a placard or plate.

What drives me more nuts is that people insist upon driving around with the long mirror placard still in place. Please, for the sake of all of us, put that thing away while driving because it's blocking your view.

[steindle]

Can someone explain this completely incomprehensible hatred of spaces for (more) environmentally-friendly vehicles? The bizarre rationale so far seems to be that they shouldn't exist because they "aren't legally enforceable." A lot of matters of store policy or common courtesy aren't legally enforceable -- does it also make you furious when Aldi charges $0.25 for shopping carts? Should I call the police next time they ask for their usurious, unenforceable cart tax?

The ironic thing is that the people this likely bothers most (i.e., Republicans) would be the first to defend a private organization or corporation's right to exclude based upon, e.g., orientation or race. Suddenly when the exclusion is of gas-guzzlin', gun-totin' embodiments of America, we have a problem.

[sskink]

Originally Posted by steindle

Can someone explain this completely incomprehensible hatred of spaces for (more) environmentally-friendly vehicles? The bizarre rationale so far seems to be that they shouldn't exist because they "aren't legally enforceable." A lot of matters of store policy or common courtesy aren't legally enforceable -- does it also make you furious when Aldi charges $0.25 for shopping carts? Should I call the police next time they ask for their usurious, unenforceable cart tax?

The ironic thing is that the people this likely bothers most (i.e., Republicans) would be the first to defend a private organization or corporation's right to exclude based upon, e.g., orientation or race. Suddenly when the exclusion is of gas-guzzlin', gun-totin' embodiments of America, we have a problem.

I have no issue with charging for carts - unless I pay a quarter for one with a tack or flat spot in the tire.

Look at this way - Aldi is the supermarket version of a discount airline. You're free to go there and take advantage of lower prices, but if you want frills, you're going to pay.

Spaces for hybrids near the door just don't make sense to me from a marketing or business perspective. I don't understand the motive. I'd rather see more efforts put into bringing your own bag or recycling the ones they give you (which are always too many for what you actually bought).

[Aqua Teen Carl]

They should make a law where gas guzzlin, Murican monster machines are against the law. The only time a vehicle is allowed to get 3 MPG is when it's a food truck serving me organic free range locally grown gluten free sustainable fair trade vegan heirloom artisan hormone free certified humane non GMO kim-chi lentil burritos.

[Tinare]

Originally Posted by steindle

Can someone explain this completely incomprehensible hatred of spaces for (more) environmentally-friendly vehicles? The bizarre rationale so far seems to be that they shouldn't exist because they "aren't legally enforceable." A lot of matters of store policy or common courtesy aren't legally enforceable -- does it also make you furious when Aldi charges $0.25 for shopping carts? Should I call the police next time they ask for their usurious, unenforceable cart tax?

The ironic thing is that the people this likely bothers most (i.e., Republicans) would be the first to defend a private organization or corporation's right to exclude based upon, e.g., orientation or race. Suddenly when the exclusion is of gas-guzzlin', gun-totin' embodiments of America, we have a problem.

I am the furthest thing from a Republican, and I think spaces for particular kinds of cars are silly. Especially if a company gets points towards LEED certification for them. The building should be green, not the parking lot. Especially since the owner of the building can't really control what cars are coming to their business. I wouldn't park in one of those spaces. Especially if I owned a hybrid.

And btw, Aldi's doesn't really charge $.25 for carts. You get the $.25 back when you return the cart. It's more akin to a refundable deposit for borrowing one. And I think all markets should do that -- it cuts down significantly on the number of carts littered about the parking lot.

[steindle]

Originally Posted by Aqua Teen Carl

They should make a law where gas guzzlin, Murican monster machines are against the law. The only time a vehicle is allowed to get 3 MPG is when it's a food truck serving me organic free range locally grown gluten free sustainable fair trade vegan heirloom artisan hormone free certified humane non GMO kim-chi lentil burritos.

For the record, I do think that food trucks are pretty ironically wasteful and I don't understand the current hipster love affair with them remotely.

[Aqua Teen Carl]

Originally Posted by steindle

For the record, I do think that food trucks are pretty ironically wasteful and I don't understand the current hipster love affair with them remotely.

Haha yeah, wasn't trying to be a jag towards you directly, just goofing.

Hypocrisy runs rampant round these parts, might as well poke fun at it.

[Hopes]

Originally Posted by steindle

Can someone explain this completely incomprehensible hatred of spaces for (more) environmentally-friendly vehicles? The bizarre rationale so far seems to be that they shouldn't exist because they "aren't legally enforceable." A lot of matters of store policy or common courtesy aren't legally enforceable -- does it also make you furious when Aldi charges $0.25 for shopping carts? Should I call the police next time they ask for their usurious, unenforceable cart tax?

The ironic thing is that the people this likely bothers most (i.e., Republicans) would be the first to defend a private organization or corporation's right to exclude based upon, e.g., orientation or race. Suddenly when the exclusion is of gas-guzzlin', gun-totin' embodiments of America, we have a problem.

I'm only registered as a Republican so I can undermine the party during the primaries. I'm very liberal and usually vote Democrate. I oppose the environmental parking spaces because they are only created to get green certification for buildings. If the building isn't doesn't have enough points to qualify as green without those parking spaces, the building isn't green. It's downright silly for preference to be given to physically able bodied people just because they drive a special car. I would only respect a parking space like that if it had a electrical outlet for charging the vehicle. That makes sense. Giving a space simply to get green certification doesn't make sense. It's further silly that the people who drive these cars think the spaces are there to reward them for having the money to buy an expensive new car, or for carrying more debt than they can handle because of it.