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99% of Americans agree on most issues,
the media (TV and radio) love crisis, chaos, etc. so they only talk about the 1% where we disagree and make an effort to make it as dramatic as possible.
The reality is that we all think about the same.
Some see the glass 1/2 full, others see the glass 1/2 empty.
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Another lefty thought presented as fact. Numbers thrown around as absolutes with no source or even basis in reality.
Aside from the OPs question, this quote is at the crux of what is wrong with Liberalism. (I was referring to Hawkeye 2009, but the quote didn't transfer)
Any thinking, moral person might have felt that labor unions were just and necessary when they were first implemented. Same goes for women's rights. Who could argue that females needed to be protected from inequality? How about welfare for the poor and helpless among us? How about child labor laws?
The problem with them is they should all have had a shelf life. They should have expired. Instead, the labor unions have ruined the industries they work for, welfare programs have run amok, a kid can't get an after school job, and children are being raised in fatherless homes with absent mothers.
The difference between libs and conservatives is that conservatives recognize this and libs don't.
I honestly believe that BOTH liberals and conservatives want what is best for this country.
There are extremes in both political parties that create utter chaos along with the media that prevents either party from ever coming together to agree on anything.
The entire article lost me when it said "We assume we're debating the same core values. We're not."
I have never once, in all my years on this Earth, assumed that liberals have the same core values as I do. That's precisely why I argue with them, because their core values and mine collide head on.
Ding, ding, ding. Give that man a prize Johnny!!! I am not saying ones core values are better then the other but they are most certainly NOT the same.
I honestly believe that BOTH liberals and conservatives want what is best for this country.
There are extremes in both political parties that create utter chaos along with the media that prevents either party from ever coming together to agree on anything.
And when they do try to come together on something--it's sabotaged by those extreme groups.
I've been reading quite a bit on conservative viewpoints of the health-care bill; Many conservative congressman supported health-care reform and wanted to pass the bill.
They couldn't, because "the public" is too stupid to know better.
As for Bill Maher's comment on evolution: He's damn right. The anti-intellectualism running rampant in this nation is killing the country, and that starts with the evangelical Christian anti-evolution nonsense.
What core values do liberals and conservatives share? Liberals believe communism and socialism are good, conservatives see that communism and socialism have killed millions of people. Liberals believe in wealth redistribution, conservatives know that wealth redistribution will only make more poor people by killing jobs. Conservatives believe in the sanctity on life, liberals believe in killing babies. Conservatives see that the large government is creating a debt crisis in this country, liberals believe that we can continue to run up the deficits.
Everyone of your statements about liberals is an exaggeration without basis in truth. You can point to specific people who hold those beliefs, but the mistake conservatives make, and the reason I regard their thinking as foolish (note the difference between attacking them personally and criticizing their thought process, please) is that they form the simplest and erroneous conclusions. SOME liberals might be communists, but all liberals are not. SOME liberals might be socialists, but all of them are not. May I add that not all capitalists are conservatives? The simple black-and-white generalization is what separates most liberals from most conservatives. Conservatives seem entirely incapable of seeing shades of gray.
Your statement that liberals believe in killing babies is just garbage. They believe the decision is the mother's and give her the freedom to make that personal decision themselves. Are you going to argue that EVERY woman who's had an abortion is a liberal? Because that would be wrong thinking. No one I have ever met thinks killing babies is a good thing.
Your statement about liberals running up the deficits is not supported by the facts. Conservative Presidents Reagan, Bush1 and Bush2 did their share. No one I know, not one single liberal is in favor of huge spending. No liberals are cheering Obama's use of our children's credit cards.
We could go on all night but really I've argued that there's no need to neatly divide the population. Each side makes claims about the other, though I believe one side clearly isn't thinking correctly.
It's time to focus on what we want together, what we can accomplish together. Divided we fall. I think that's the plan, but...
This is an insane post. Are you sure you didn't get the labels in the section I bolded mixed up
You're asking if my statement that conservatives attack the person while liberals attack the idea is switched, and then you're also telling me that my post is insane? You do realize how closely you come to proving my point?
It does seem to be the case in most discussions I have with people of both ideologies. I hardly ever see liberals writing things that attack conservatives, but I see liberals attacking actual conservative thinking all the time. On the other hand, when I see conservatives trying to argue their case, they resort to using every exaggeration and bad name they can conjure. They have applied labels like communist, fascist, socialist, *******, baby killer, slacker, terrorist, to people with "opposing" views. They make it personal.
I think conservatism is fear-based and stupid since no one will ever be able to stop progress, even if it's bad progress. The only absolute is change and conservatism is the rock that challenges it. Eventually that rock erodes... I'm not defending liberalism (whatever it is), but if I had a choice, I'd go with the one that is based on a word that equates with freedom.
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