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Originally Posted by AeroGuyDC The entire article lost me when it said "We assume we're debating the same core values. We're not."
I have never once, in all my years on this Earth, assumed that liberals have the same core values as I do. That's precisely why I argue with them, because their core values and mine collide head on.
The core values are identical. The difference is the approach. The reason why being liberal is better than being conservative is that liberals are much more inclined to understand this.
Whenever a conservative starts talking or writing about what liberals are or do, they immediately show themselves to be fools. OK, let's just say "not well informed" instead. Liberals criticize conservative tactics and arguments while conservatives attack the actual liberal person. Conservatives can't stand that liberals exist while liberals can't stand how conservatives think, if indeed thinking is what's actually going on up there.
This destructive divisiveness continues because the conservatives manufacture distortions of reality to justify their position instead of forming a real fact-based opinion of their fellow countrymen. Since they hate their opposite, they will never stoop to reasoning with them. The liberals, admittedly not perfect and not right on every issue, are the only side that would ever offer up a truce. But since all they get is a slapped hand, what incentive does anyone have to actually solve the problem, to accomplish the common goal?
My uber-conservative ex-Marine Dad and I had a conversation about politics, always a blood pressure raiser. We were surprised by the fact that our goals, when boiled down to simple terms, were nearly identical. We really do want the best for our country, our planet, our freedoms. The difference is the approach. Now, if we can learn to cooperate, can you not imagine the world we create together? Is it too much to ask that we forgo the useless fighting and actually do something?
It will take a liberal to start the compromise process, so, I'm asking the conservatives to put aside their hatred long enough to realize that we're all in the same boat. Deal with it.
The entire article lost me when it said "We assume we're debating the same core values. We're not."
I have never once, in all my years on this Earth, assumed that liberals have the same core values as I do. That's precisely why I argue with them, because their core values and mine collide head on.
Liberals have core values? Other than killing babies, redistributing wealth and enslaving minorities?
Originally Posted by AeroGuyDC The entire article lost me when it said "We assume we're debating the same core values. We're not."
I have never once, in all my years on this Earth, assumed that liberals have the same core values as I do. That's precisely why I argue with them, because their core values and mine collide head on.
The core values are identical. The difference is the approach. The reason why being liberal is better than being conservative is that liberals are much more inclined to understand this.
What core values do liberals and conservatives share? Liberals believe communism and socialism are good, conservatives see that communism and socialism have killed millions of people. Liberals believe in wealth redistribution, conservatives know that wealth redistribution will only make more poor people by killing jobs. Conservatives believe in the sanctity on life, liberals believe in killing babies. Conservatives see that the large government is creating a debt crisis in this country, liberals believe that we can continue to run up the deficits.
Whenever a conservative starts talking or writing about what liberals are or do, they immediately show themselves to be fools. OK, let's just say "not well informed" instead. Liberals criticize conservative tactics and arguments while conservatives attack the actual liberal person. Conservatives can't stand that liberals exist while liberals can't stand how conservatives think, if indeed thinking is what's actually going on up there.
Uh, your last comment shows that a liberal is actually attacking a conservative by implying that we don't think. It seems to me like the liberals are doing the attacking and not the conservatives. You are actually calling conservatives fools and this is not a personal attack? Since when is calling someone a fool not an attack?
This destructive divisiveness continues because the conservatives manufacture distortions of reality to justify their position instead of forming a real fact-based opinion of their fellow countrymen. Since they hate their opposite, they will never stoop to reasoning with them. The liberals, admittedly not perfect and not right on every issue, are the only side that would ever offer up a truce. But since all they get is a slapped hand, what incentive does anyone have to actually solve the problem, to accomplish the common goal?
Since when have liberals offered up a truce? All I see is liberals constantly attacking conservatives. You actually just finished calling us fools and you say that conservatives are the haters.
My uber-conservative ex-Marine Dad and I had a conversation about politics, always a blood pressure raiser. We were surprised by the fact that our goals, when boiled down to simple terms, were nearly identical. We really do want the best for our country, our planet, our freedoms. The difference is the approach. Now, if we can learn to cooperate, can you not imagine the world we create together? Is it too much to ask that we forgo the useless fighting and actually do something?
It will take a liberal to start the compromise process, so, I'm asking the conservatives to put aside their hatred long enough to realize that we're all in the same boat.
I don't see liberals willing to compromise, I just see liberals that want power and control. Conservatives offered ideas for healthcare reform, but liberals insisted on a power grab by the federal government. Liberals consistently bash Fox News and anyone who watches Fox News as if we are a bunch of children who need mom and dad to tell us what to watch on TV. Conservatives are rightfully concerned that Cap and Tax will kill jobs, but liberals don't care about more people losing their jobs. Bill Mahr, a liberal, said that we should force Americans to believe in evolution because we are "too dumb to figure it out." Glenn Beck, a conservative, said, "I want you to decide what you believe."
I would challenge a liberal poster to state their core values. Because really, I don't know what they are. Whereas the conservative core values are pretty obvious.
I think that is a big difference between the two. The liberals absolute lack of a value system. It is more anything goes EXCEPT the conservative or Christian viewpoint.
I thnikt aht conserrvative are basiclly more self reliant and happier. Liberals tend to think other have it better. I remmeber the joke about the difference between dutch treat and going russian. Dutch treat is where each pays for his own. Russian is nothing for me ;I will just some of of everybody elses.Dem0ocrats tend to think of themsleves as victims.
Originally Posted by AeroGuyDC The entire article lost me when it said "We assume we're debating the same core values. We're not."
I have never once, in all my years on this Earth, assumed that liberals have the same core values as I do. That's precisely why I argue with them, because their core values and mine collide head on.
The core values are identical. The difference is the approach. The reason why being liberal is better than being conservative is that liberals are much more inclined to understand this.
Whenever a conservative starts talking or writing about what liberals are or do, they immediately show themselves to be fools. OK, let's just say "not well informed" instead. Liberals criticize conservative tactics and arguments while conservatives attack the actual liberal person. Conservatives can't stand that liberals exist while liberals can't stand how conservatives think, if indeed thinking is what's actually going on up there.
This destructive divisiveness continues because the conservatives manufacture distortions of reality to justify their position instead of forming a real fact-based opinion of their fellow countrymen. Since they hate their opposite, they will never stoop to reasoning with them. The liberals, admittedly not perfect and not right on every issue, are the only side that would ever offer up a truce. But since all they get is a slapped hand, what incentive does anyone have to actually solve the problem, to accomplish the common goal?
My uber-conservative ex-Marine Dad and I had a conversation about politics, always a blood pressure raiser. We were surprised by the fact that our goals, when boiled down to simple terms, were nearly identical. We really do want the best for our country, our planet, our freedoms. The difference is the approach. Now, if we can learn to cooperate, can you not imagine the world we create together? Is it too much to ask that we forgo the useless fighting and actually do something?
It will take a liberal to start the compromise process, so, I'm asking the conservatives to put aside their hatred long enough to realize that we're all in the same boat. Deal with it.
This is an insane post. Are you sure you didn't get the labels in the section I bolded mixed up
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Since when is calling someone a fool not an attack? 
