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Old 06-15-2010, 10:57 AM
 
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E-Verify is an Internet-based system that allows an employer, using information reported on an employee's Form I-9, Employment Eligibility Verification, to determine the eligibility of that employee to work in the United States. For most employers, the use of E-Verify is voluntary and limited to determining the employment eligibility of new hires only. There is no charge to employers to use E-Verify. The E-Verify system is operated by the Department of Homeland Security in partnership with the Social Security Administration.

More than 207,000 employers are enrolled in the program, with over 8.7 million queries run through the system in fiscal year 2009. There have been over 10.7 million queries run through the system in fiscal year 2010 (as of June 5, 2010).

E-Verify is mandatory for some employers, such as those employers with federal contracts or subcontracts that contain the Federal Acquisition Regulation (FAR) E-Verify clause and employers in certain states.

DHS | E-Verify

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This is a no-brainer in my opinion. Every employee should be ran through the system for citizenship verification for employment purposes.

The fact that the government has NOT made this mandatory for ALL employers is proof that the Feds have no intent on cracking down on those who employ illegals.

What say you?
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Old 06-15-2010, 11:08 AM
 
Location: West Michigan
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I agree that it should be mandatory but when Obama wanted to enhance the E-Verify program as part of the stimulus program last year he got a lot of push back from Republicans. He wanted to upgrade the E-Verify program software to include photographs because, as is, anyone could use stolen S.S. numbers, etc., and not get caught so the system is too fallible. Nothing is black and white simple these days.

E-Verify requirement in Obama stimulus plan sparks controversy - Computerworld

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Old 06-15-2010, 11:14 AM
 
Location: Londonderry, NH
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Allowing, if not encouraging, illegal immigration is one of the ways big business makes certain there is always more people than jobs. The concept that business may have to increase wages to attract workers because of a shortage strikes fear into their exploitative hearts. Of course the Republicans would push back on any attempt to prevent hiring illegal’s.
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Old 06-15-2010, 11:16 AM
 
Location: Vermont
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OMG! Isn't this a proposal to make the big, bad government bigger and badder?

It makes sense to me. Convince some of your Republican buddies to sign on.
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Old 06-15-2010, 11:18 AM
 
Location: Washington state
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A lot of Republicans...the kind interested in slave labor, don't want it.
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Old 06-15-2010, 11:20 AM
 
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How about let the businesses be responsible for it, there by not stepping on individual rights in the process and then put extremely heavy penalties on those caught hiring illegals?

This does a couple of things. First, we do not "mandate" to the people, the government is not our "lord or king", they serve us by adhering to the protection of individual liberties first and foremost and to the peoples needs second.

Also, this places the responsibility within the hands of the individual or rather business. Then, the laws already exist for such actions, simply make them have teeth. This way, nobody is dictated to, but those who are obviously doing wrong are hit hard. Make the penalties for knowingly hiring (or reasonably ignoring the issue) illegals so heavy that it could cripple or possibly close a business down.

This way, only those who are guilty pay and we don't have blanket laws which end up becoming bureaucratic nightmares and possible angles for abuse to our individual liberties.
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Old 06-15-2010, 11:20 AM
 
Location: Long Island
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I agree that it should be mandatory but when Obama wanted to enhance the E-Verify program as part of the stimulus program last year he got a lot of push back from Republicans. He wanted to upgrade the E-Verify program software to include photographs because, as is, anyone could use stolen S.S. numbers, etc., and not get caught so the system is too fallible. Nothing is black and white simple these days.
actually it was the democrats (or leftists)( not the politicians but 'chanmbers of commerce', and unions) that were against it

the republicans were for it, as it was/is a bush executive order

Obama delays E-Verify rule; House includes it in stimulus - Washington Business Journal: Washington Bureau (http://columbus.bizjournals.com/extraedge/washingtonbureau/archive/2009/02/09/bureau3.html - broken link)
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Old 06-15-2010, 11:23 AM
 
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A lot of Republicans...the kind interested in slave labor, don't want it.
Or, some see it as yet another chain to the government putting more power and control in the governments hands?

We don't need to make more laws, we simply need to make our current laws work. They have no teeth, they are not enforced when people violate them. All this law will do is put another bureaucratic weight on businesses that doesn't need to be there. Let the businesses run themselves, but let them take the burden of responsibility for ignoring the issue.
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Old 06-15-2010, 11:29 AM
 
Location: South Fla
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How about let the businesses be responsible for it, there by not stepping on individual rights in the process and then put extremely heavy penalties on those caught hiring illegals?

This does a couple of things. First, we do not "mandate" to the people, the government is not our "lord or king", they serve us by adhering to the protection of individual liberties first and foremost and to the peoples needs second.

Also, this places the responsibility within the hands of the individual or rather business. Then, the laws already exist for such actions, simply make them have teeth. This way, nobody is dictated to, but those who are obviously doing wrong are hit hard. Make the penalties for knowingly hiring (or reasonably ignoring the issue) illegals so heavy that it could cripple or possibly close a business down.

This way, only those who are guilty pay and we don't have blanket laws which end up becoming bureaucratic nightmares and possible angles for abuse to our individual liberties.
I have to agree
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Old 06-15-2010, 11:55 AM
 
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All excellent responses. Keep'm coming!
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