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Old 06-17-2010, 12:29 PM
 
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If the experts in the industry have such great technology, why did this whole incident occur in the first place?
uhm because BP wasnt listening to the experts?

There seems to be some evidence that they werent even listening to their own experts.



since I answered you question, you got an excuse for Obama's feet draggin?
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Old 06-17-2010, 12:30 PM
 
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uhm... watch the video. it "occurred this morning"


and you won’t deal with the facts.

what has not occurred is a flow meter to tell us what is actually happening.

what has not occurred is a moratorium on the Jones Act NOR so much as a reason why it has not been a moratorium.

What has not occurred is a drive to get anything and everything that can mitigate the damage to beaches and wetlands in place.

What has not occurred is a meeting with the experts in the industry who seem to be saying they have technologies that are not being leveraged.

But go ahead. Defend YourBama. Talk about looking silly

I was refering to the impeachment. So when it happens come back and let me know. And considering your reading challenge, take your time and go back and find the post where I defended Obama. Boy you people are really childish when it comes to having a two way discussion.
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Old 06-17-2010, 12:31 PM
 
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LOL! grow up? really

and "they all lie? more lazy excuses to avoid facing the fact that Obama is massively screwing up AMERICA

Thats right grown up THEY ALL LIE. I know that crush your little world but thats life, learn to deal with it.
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Old 06-17-2010, 12:33 PM
 
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Thats right grown up THEY ALL LIE. I know that crush your little world but thats life, learn to deal with it.
well at least you make me chuckle.
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Old 06-17-2010, 12:34 PM
 
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I was refering to the impeachment. So when it happens come back and let me know. And considering your reading challenge, take your time and go back and find the post where I defended Obama. Boy you people are really childish when it comes to having a two way discussion.
so, you arent defending Obama, but you want to take issue with Rudy?

wierd.
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Old 06-17-2010, 12:36 PM
 
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so, you arent defending Obama, but you want to take issue with Rudy?

wierd.

Of course I take Issue with the Idiot as does many in the NY, NJ area. Hint, he is NOT well recieved nor is his opinion.
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Old 06-17-2010, 12:38 PM
 
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Rudy is disgusting, he was my Mayor and he is indeed not liked in NY... AT ALL.

Noun, Verb, 9/11 indeed.
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Old 06-17-2010, 12:38 PM
 
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Bush lied about WMD's, sent us to war against a country on false pretenses, disobeyed UN sanctions, broke countless geneva convention codes, allowed torture, the appaulling responce to katrina,.. and that idiot wasn't impeached??? If that was a democrat, his head would have been on a stake.
one of the dumbest posts i have ever seen.
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Old 06-17-2010, 12:51 PM
 
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From Morning Joe this morning, Rudy had several things to say among them being the quote in the Thread title.

But far worse than that is the last few seconds of the clip where he makes the very clear case that Obama has been utterly negligent in handling the Gulf Crisis.

He also makes the point that he has talked to industry leaders and they say Obama has not contacted them.

It is insane that we are now nearly 60 days into this thing and we are still nowhere near ramped up as we could be for getting the oil out of the gulf.

It is equally insane that we still do not have any way to measure the amount of oil being released. That could have been done in the first week and Obama has allowed BP to prevent that from happening.

It is criminal. I do not see how anyone can defend Barak Obama on these two points.

RealClearPolitics - Video - Giuliani: If This Was Bush, He Would Have Been Impeached By Now

Waaaah, the Republicans are such victims.
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Old 06-17-2010, 12:52 PM
 
Location: North America
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Did it ever occur to any of you that nobody knows how to deal with this massive spill?

Obama makes a speech, people say shut up, he doesn't make a speech, and everybody says make a speech, dammit. He pushes BP to put 20 billion in escrow, people say he's extorting money. People say stop regulating business, then when it blows up in their faces, they say, where are the regulations? Jesus, make up your minds.

What do you guys expect him to do, get a bunch of sponges and throw them into the gulf? The feds have been there since day one, folks, and they have neither the equipment, nor the know-how to deal with this.

Here’s the government response timeline:

http://www.deepwaterhorizonresponse.com/posted/2931/updated_timeline_June_10.594723.pdf


The FACT is that the regulators allowed BP to drill-baby-drill without safety measures that could have prevented this. People point out the Obama gave them a safety award in 2009, when this well has been around for a LOT longer than that. You want to hold Obama culpable for accepting 77K from BP employees? What about the atmosphere of glad handing, back-patting, and no problem, fill out your own inspection reports, buddy, that went on at the MMS for a long time before 2009.

Oil Industry Contributions to the House Energy and Commerce Committee (interesting to note, Rep. Barton received over 100K)

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2010/0..._n_615867.html

You want to blame someone for this mess? Serve it up to Obama, and invite Bush, Cheney, and the rest along with it, and give 'em all a great big spoonful of FUBAR.

The sad fact is, the regulatory agencies, homeland security, EPA and the rest of them, as well as the oil industry itself, do not have the equipment and know-how to deal with this disaster, and they should have, a long time before Obama took office.

As for Rudy Guiliani, he flushed his credibility down the toilet as far as I'm concerned, when he used 9/11 as a campaign tool.

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