Welcome to City-Data.com Forum!
U.S. CitiesCity-Data Forum Index
Go Back   City-Data Forum > General Forums > Politics and Other Controversies
 [Register]
Please register to participate in our discussions with 2 million other members - it's free and quick! Some forums can only be seen by registered members. After you create your account, you'll be able to customize options and access all our 15,000 new posts/day with fewer ads.
View detailed profile (Advanced) or search
site with Google Custom Search

Search Forums  (Advanced)
Reply Start New Thread
 
Old 06-17-2010, 12:19 PM
 
Location: Dallas, TX
31,767 posts, read 28,871,279 times
Reputation: 12341

Advertisements

Quote:
Originally Posted by pghquest View Post
BP needs to be apologized to... They are under NO legal requirement to send $20B to Obama...
Oh, the apologists, BP should just go to the courts. I'm sure "conservatives" will back 'em up.
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message

 
Old 06-17-2010, 12:20 PM
 
45,728 posts, read 27,355,122 times
Reputation: 23985
These people are on the House Energy Subcommittee - and they have received X amount of money from oil and gas groups.

Tammy Baldwin, D-Wis., none
John Barrow, D-Ga., $31,500
Joe Barton, R-Texas, $100,470
Marsha Blackburn, R-Tenn., $33,500
Roy Blunt, R-Mo., $133,100
Mary Bono Mack, R-Calif., $5,750
Rick Boucher, D-Va., $36,000
Bruce Braley, D-Iowa, none
Michael Burgess, R-Texas, $39,350
G.K. Butterfield, D-N.C., $19,500
Steve Buyer, R-Ind., $5,000
Lois Capps, D-Calif., none
Kathy Castor, D-Fla., none
Donna Christian-Christensen, D-Virgin Islands, $1,500
Nathan Deal, R-Ga., none
Diana DeGette, D-Colo., $2,250
John D Dingell, D-Mich., $7,000
Mike Doyle, D-Pa., $8,000
Eliot L Engel, D-N.Y., none
Anna Eshoo, D-Calif., none
Phil Gingrey, R-Ga., $20,500
Charlie A Gonzalez, D-Texas, $30,000
Bart Gordon, D-Tenn., $13,500
Gene Green, D-Texas, $43,500
Ralph M Hall, R-Texas, $31,250
Jane Harman, D-Calif., $3,000
Baron Hill, D-Ind., $2,000
Jay Inslee, D-Wash., none
Edward J Markey, D-Mass., $16,000
Jim Matheson, D-Utah, $47,750
Doris O Matsui, D-Calif., $7,500
Jerry McNerney, D-Calif., $3,000
Charles Melancon, D-La., $65,500
Chris Murphy, D-Conn., $6,800
Tim Murphy, R-Pa., $62,950
Sue Myrick, R-N.C., $11,500
Frank Pallone Jr., D-N.J., none
Joe Pitts, R-Pa., $18,000
George Radanovich, R-Calif., $14,000
Mike Rogers, R-Mich., $20,400
Mike Ross, D-Ark., $76,950
Bobby L Rush, D-Ill., $1,000
John Sarbanes, D-Md., $3,300
Steve Scalise, R-La., $44,335
Jan Schakowsky, D-Ill., none
John Shadegg, R-Ariz., $13,400
John M Shimkus, R-Ill., $34,000
Zachary T Space, D-Ohio, $9,600
Cliff Stearns, R-Fla., $1,000
Bart Stupak, D-Mich., $12,000
John Sullivan, R-Okla., $65,250
Betty Sue Sutton, D-Ohio, $6,000
Lee Terry, R-Neb., $30,350
Fred Upton, R-Mich., $22,000
Greg Walden, R-Ore., $31,200
Henry A Waxman, D-Calif., $6,000
Anthony D Weiner, D-N.Y., none
Peter Welch, D-Vt., $10,000
Ed Whitfield, R-Ky., $20,500
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
 
Old 06-17-2010, 12:22 PM
 
69,368 posts, read 64,232,612 times
Reputation: 9383
Quote:
Originally Posted by EinsteinsGhost View Post
Oh, the apologists, BP should just go to the courts. I'm sure "conservatives" will back 'em up.
I looked for an educated response in here, but as usual, none found.. Here, let me try it again...
Quote:
Originally Posted by pghquest View Post
UNDER WHAT LEGAL STANDING DOES THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT HAVE TO DEMAND BP ESCROW $20B?
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
 
Old 06-17-2010, 12:22 PM
 
Location: S.E. US
13,163 posts, read 1,727,231 times
Reputation: 5134
IF BP were to go under (reorganize that operation as a new entity), and move to other shores, do you not think other countries would move in to fill the void? What if it were China who had had this accident.
How far do you think Obama would get in pressuring China?

We're lucky that, if this had to happen, it was BP. Yes, they were forced by environmentalists to move into deep water. It was approved by the government. The blowout preventer was approved by the government. BP "met code". In the process, they should have known better than to take some of the risks they did. However, that's what the fed inspectors were supposed to oversee and prevent. They did not do their job and we know there is blame on all sides. BP is not the only guilty party here.

Obama should take the contributions that BP made to his campaign and put them into the fund. Now THAT would make for good publicity for him (since he's so concerned with his own image being tainted by political fallout from anything he does or doesn't do). He should also put the oil industry windfall profits taxes that the government collected into the escrow fund.

I do think that it was a shakedown. Didn't the government originally agree to a $75m cap on expenses?
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
 
Old 06-17-2010, 12:24 PM
 
Location: Imaginary Figment
11,449 posts, read 14,490,486 times
Reputation: 4777
Quote:
Originally Posted by DRob4JC View Post
These people are on the House Energy Subcommittee - and they have received X amount of money from oil and gas groups.
Yes and how many of them apologized to BP today?
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
 
Old 06-17-2010, 12:28 PM
 
Location: Imaginary Figment
11,449 posts, read 14,490,486 times
Reputation: 4777
Quote:
Originally Posted by pghquest View Post
I looked for an educated response in here, but as usual, none found.. Here, let me try it again...
None of course, and BP was under no obligation to oblige, yet they did, why do you suppose that is?

Of course this is all irrelevant in regards to the point of the thread, which as usual you are trying to avoid like the plague. The point is that faced with one of the worst ecological disasters in the history of this great country, the GOP Representative steps up to be BP's biggest unapologetic bootlick. Just as you are stepping up to do damage control by changing the subject.
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
 
Old 06-17-2010, 12:29 PM
 
Location: North America
19,784 posts, read 15,144,707 times
Reputation: 8527
Quote:
Originally Posted by SLCPUNK View Post
Rep. Barton apologizes to BP for Obama 'shakedown' - Yahoo! News (http://news.yahoo.com/s/ynews/ynews_ts2660 - broken link)

Points for shooting himself in the foot.
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
 
Old 06-17-2010, 12:31 PM
 
45,728 posts, read 27,355,122 times
Reputation: 23985
Quote:
Originally Posted by SLCPUNK View Post
Yes and how many of them apologized to BP today?
I simply put out the list for information.

Even if Barton or anyone else received nothing from BP - the extraction of $20 billion in the way it occurred is illegal.

Being held responsible and being treated fairly can be two different things.
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
 
Old 06-17-2010, 12:32 PM
 
69,368 posts, read 64,232,612 times
Reputation: 9383
Quote:
Originally Posted by SLCPUNK View Post
None of course, and BP was under no obligation to oblige, yet they did, why do you suppose that is?
Because they understand the difference between a legal obligation, which they DO NOT have to pay for, and a moral one.. And since they were villiafied for making the right decision, over the legal one, yes, they indeed should be apologized to..
Quote:
Originally Posted by SLCPUNK View Post
Of course this is all irrelevant in regards to the point of the thread, which as usual you are trying to avoid like the plague. The point is that faced with one of the worst ecological disasters in the history of this great country, the GOP Representative steps up to be BP's biggest unapologetic bootlick. Just as you are stepping up to do damage control by changing the subject.
I've discussed the topic numerous times.. You guys must live in fantasy land..
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
 
Old 06-17-2010, 12:36 PM
 
Location: Florida
76,971 posts, read 47,761,171 times
Reputation: 14806
Quote:
Originally Posted by pghquest View Post
BP needs to be apologized to... They are under NO legal requirement to send $20B to Obama.. NONE.. If you can answer the question I've asked here before than I'll admit you are right, but if you cant, than indeed an apologize is called for.

UNDER WHAT LEGAL STANDING DOES THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT HAVE TO DEMAND BP ESCROW $20B?
Demand? They talked about it, and both parties came to an agreement. I don't think they were legally obligated to do it, but they agreed to it anyway. It is a matter of negitiation and persuation. I'll bet BP is wondering what the congressman is apologizing for.

OK, so now you will admit I was right?
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
Please register to post and access all features of our very popular forum. It is free and quick. Over $68,000 in prizes has already been given out to active posters on our forum. Additional giveaways are planned.

Detailed information about all U.S. cities, counties, and zip codes on our site: City-data.com.


Reply
Please update this thread with any new information or opinions. This open thread is still read by thousands of people, so we encourage all additional points of view.

Quick Reply
Message:


Over $104,000 in prizes was already given out to active posters on our forum and additional giveaways are planned!

Go Back   City-Data Forum > General Forums > Politics and Other Controversies
Similar Threads

All times are GMT -6. The time now is 06:45 AM.

© 2005-2024, Advameg, Inc. · Please obey Forum Rules · Terms of Use and Privacy Policy · Bug Bounty

City-Data.com - Contact Us - Archive 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8, 9, 10, 11, 12, 13, 14, 15, 16, 17, 18, 19, 20, 21, 22, 23, 24, 25, 26, 27, 28, 29, 30, 31, 32, 33, 34, 35, 36, 37 - Top