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Old 07-13-2010, 12:04 PM
 
Location: Home, Home on the Front Range
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It won't hold up. It was a public place and O'keefe recorded his own conversation.
Without the consent of all parties to the conversation.
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Old 07-13-2010, 12:06 PM
 
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Without the consent of all parties to the conversation.
Whatever, you robots will never learn. What did Vera say that was confidential to him only and not O'Keefe? This was ALL O'Keefe's confidential and private information being revealed, not Vera's. He has NO case.
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Old 07-13-2010, 12:09 PM
 
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They didn't do anything illegal. Video taping is allowed in a public place and an ACORN office is a public place.
If you would read the link in the first post, and click on the word "lawsuit" which is a link within the article, you can see the actual court document which was filed. Yes, in California it is illegal to tape record someone without their permission. There appear to be both criminal and civil remedies for breaking that law.
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Old 07-13-2010, 12:13 PM
 
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you guys are funny. Answer this. What was confidential or private that Vera told O'Keefe? What? Was it the part where he offered to smuggle his girls in through Mexico? Was that the private and confidential part?
According to privacy laws, anything you say is in a conversation is considered confidential. Anything, and everything.
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Old 07-13-2010, 12:13 PM
 
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Basiclly a suit and court is much different than having a politcal AG issue a stateement. The Westnoreland lawsuit against NBC shuld tell terhm just how hard it is to porevail aginst media. In that suit the jury found that NBC lied i their stroy ;knew they lied but Westmoreland being a public figure and they being media got nothing.I this case they have tapes shgowing that they in fact were invlved in a oraganiaztio that was doing illegal activity which is going to make it much harder tha anyhting in the Westmoreland case. The only winners thre finacially were the trail lawyers who handled both sides.
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Old 07-13-2010, 12:14 PM
 
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The editing thing doesn't really matter anyway, that will go nowhere. It's all about this law that doesn't even apply to your own conversations. That law that keeps getting posted is only for when you record other parties other then yourself. You can't eves drop and walk away with confidential information from your own conversation. Think about it.
So Vera was not taped? How did that work? Did you take a look at the document which was filed in court? If you are right, then shouldn't the court have thrown out the case because it doesn't have a cause of action?
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Old 07-13-2010, 12:16 PM
 
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If you would read the link in the first post, and click on the word "lawsuit" which is a link within the article, you can see the actual court document which was filed. Yes, in California it is illegal to tape record someone without their permission. There appear to be both criminal and civil remedies for breaking that law.
That law doesn't apply. I know you want it to so freaking badly, but it will get thrown right out, unless Obama/Holder interfere.

The only time you need permission according to that law, is when you REASONABLY suspect that you may be recording a private or confidential conversation. So again, what did Vera say that was so confidential and private? NOTHING.

So let me entertain this question to you:

If you're at the beach in California and you take out your video camera and start recording a group of your friends, meanwhile there are hundreds of people on the beach all around you. You have to get the hundreds of people's permission to film? I really don't think it works that way. The law is all about evesdropping, if you were recording strangers having conversations, then the law applies. You can't eve's drop on your own conversation. This will get tossed.
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Old 07-13-2010, 12:17 PM
 
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So Vera was not taped? How did that work? Did you take a look at the document which was filed in court? If you are right, then shouldn't the court have thrown out the case because it doesn't have a cause of action?
It will get dropped when it goes to court the first day. O'Keefe's lawyer is going to have a field day with this one.
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Old 07-13-2010, 12:22 PM
 
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"Boohoo, they caught me acting like a jackass on video and now I'm gonna sue."

Typical lib philosophy.
If someone secretly taped you (invading your privacy) and that tape made you out to be breaking the law, (when you weren't) you wouldn't sue for damages done to your career and life?
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Old 07-13-2010, 12:23 PM
 
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Remember that burden is much lower in civil cases, so, all Vera has to prove is that he was recorded without his knowledge.
He also has to prove that he was in some way damaged by the act. No damage = no court victory.
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