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Well, I didn't take it as a personal attack, that's just the kind of stuff my kids were asked when they went to college out of state. It's just not cool to make little "jokes" about other states. This is a forum with posters from all over.
The first time I was ever in las vegas I felt kind of overwhelmed by the glitz. Then it became something I expected to see everywhere like sensory overload white noise.
I remember saying to a pharmacist "I almost forgot that real live people live and work here". My meaning was that so much of the atmosphere of that city was theatric carnival stuff that you didn't get to see the down to earth ordinariness about Nevada or it's people. Residents are kind of shunted aside in a corner somewhere. He laughed and saw my point.
It wasn't a complaint, no demand for change, no I'm better than you contest motive behind it as some might interpret. Just an observation. And when Montana refers to NYC as 'concrete country', they're also correct in that observation. LA chuckles at 'the land of fruits and nuts' too. Speaking in facts isn't slander or personal attack.
Real conservatives? What exactly does that mean anyway?
Many people of the younger persuasion are more and more liberal and progressive.
The more hardline conservative a party or group of people are, the less likely they will gain the support or even the acknowledgment of gen-y/millenials.
This country will fail if we don't stop the spending. That is just a given. Europe has figured out they can't keep spending like crazy, and we need to figure that out as well. It's pretty sad when the president of France is telling our president to spend less.
This country will fail if we don't stop the spending. That is just a given. Europe has figured out they can't keep spending like crazy, and we need to figure that out as well. It's pretty sad when the president of France is telling our president to spend less.
So which "real conservatives" have suggested to cut spending?
Ie: ending those stupid wars and cut military spending....Rand Paul comes to mind, maybe.
The rest of his ideas will never fly with the rest of the conservative movement, and most not with the progressives, so his is a lost cause, a lone horse on long road.
Spending's not the problem. It's spending beyond our means. Spend wisely. I say. spend to improve infrastructure, education, healthcare, , etc.
Every single Republican/Conservative, who all believe in tax cuts [for the wealthy], don't believe in paying for those tax cuts. Hell, Boner/Kyl and the like have been on tv this past week and have expressly said that tax cuts are something that DO NOT need to be paid for. Well, where the hell does the excess revenue come from..? How do we pay for them in the first place? Add it to the defit. Are they going to cut spending? Unlikely. They hadn't in the past, so why now? Every single indication by the Reps this past year has been, if we regain control, we'll be doing things the same old Republican way. They're jsut hoping enough people are pissed off at Obama to want them back. But the TP isn't helping them either. Favoribilty for Reps is about 5-10% lower than to Dems, and Obama is still up around 50%, so.
I think the bill for those two conservative driven wars is now up past $1,000,000,000,000 [or about 15% of our national debt]. But as long we we fight them there...right?
Conservatism is dead and/or dying. People today understand the need for regulations, need for government spending [polls indicate that they are okay with it in troubled times] because it works, understand there is no place for bigoted policies bred out of Conservative Christian values [racism, homosexuality, abortion, etc].
As we see the rise of minorties [who are predisposed to vote Democratic, b/c reps have done everything under the sun to alienate them], as urban centers in traditionally conservative areas flourish, as more and more people educate themselves [yeah repubs are statistically less educated then dems, it's just a fact], then there is a natural tendency afoot for this nation to start moving to the left again.
This is the struggle we're seeing played out. The Tea Party is full of scared white folks from the south/rural areas and now epitomized by the caucus. The people who support Obama will always support him, and the people who don't have always hated him since, oh, November 9, 2008.
This country will fail if we don't stop the spending. That is just a given. Europe has figured out they can't keep spending like crazy, and we need to figure that out as well. It's pretty sad when the president of France is telling our president to spend less.
Didn't Ronald Reagan succeed in getting Europe to spend itself into bankruptcy to defend itself from the U.S. threat?
I think you're wrong. Conservativism does have a place in modern politics. When some of the posters here refer to "real" conservatism, they are not referring to social conservatism. They are referring to the kind of political conservatism that was originally espoused by the anti-Federalists. Conservatism, like liberalism, is defined differently in terms of context. The idea that liberalism is inevitably intertwined with socialism is false, because it doesn't take context into consideration. Your arguments are false for the same reason.
So which "real conservatives" have suggested to cut spending?
That's kind of what the Tea Partiers have been railing against.
Bottom line is, we had what....$10....$12 Trillion debt when Skippy took office? He promptly signed into law $2 T worth of entitlements. It doesn't take a rocket scientist to figure out that's not a smart move.
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