Welcome to City-Data.com Forum!
U.S. CitiesCity-Data Forum Index
Go Back   City-Data Forum > General Forums > Politics and Other Controversies
 [Register]
Please register to participate in our discussions with 2 million other members - it's free and quick! Some forums can only be seen by registered members. After you create your account, you'll be able to customize options and access all our 15,000 new posts/day with fewer ads.
View detailed profile (Advanced) or search
site with Google Custom Search

Search Forums  (Advanced)
Reply Start New Thread
 
Old 07-22-2010, 03:28 AM
 
Location: Columbia, SC
37,195 posts, read 19,232,404 times
Reputation: 14919

Advertisements

Quote:
Originally Posted by Avengerfire View Post
1) What about LBJ ?!

2)"was..." Until OBAMA!
One does not exclude the other, but we were talking about conservatives here.

Does LBJ qualify in your estimation?
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message

 
Old 07-22-2010, 05:41 AM
 
Location: Sango, TN
24,868 posts, read 24,403,011 times
Reputation: 8672
Quote:
Originally Posted by OhioIstheBest View Post
Hoover created all kinds of government programs to try and get the economy straight. FDR just continued and expanded Hoovers programs.

The idea the Hoover was hands off economically is something the left has made up over the years to make it look like FDR was correct.
The structure of American agriculture following WWI was precarious to say the least. Following the war, the demand for American agriculture evaporated. The lack of demand left American farmers with too much product, keeping prices very low. Farmers that the government had encouraged to borrow and increase production before the war were unable to make enough money to pay for their land, labor, and equipment. Industrialization had shifted the nature of the economy away from agriculture, and without government intervention, farmers never experienced the Coolidge propserity years.

It was during this time that an exodus of agricultural workers to urban areas took place. Along with increased immigration, there was a surplus of labor for American industry. The new concentrated nature of industry required fewer workers and allowed wages to remain relatively low despite large increases in productivity. Despite the perceptions inspired by the years of Coolidge prosperity in the 1920’s, unemployment was a pervasive issue. The persistence of these trends contributed to growing disparity of income in America.

The Hoover administration, equipped with belief that the cycles of prosperity and contraction were a natural phenomenon, could not have anticipated the seriousness of the Great Depression. The change in the structure of the American economy was its natural evolution. Even the courts prevented most attempts of policy makers to engage in regulation that may have prevented collapse, or at least kept the problem from becoming so pervasive. The depth of the economic collapse could not have been envisioned, nor did the tools exist to fix it had policy makers recognized it. The entrenched nature of laissez-faire economic policy prevented any such action. These factors left the Hoover administration ill equipped to deal with the Great Depression. Even with his vast experience, Herbert Hoover was doomed to failure.



Herbert Hoover's Legacy: Great Depression Goat Inherited Laissez-Faire Economic Policy Herbert Hoover's Legacy: Great Depression Goat Inherited Laissez-Faire Economic Policy
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
 
Old 07-22-2010, 05:52 AM
 
Location: Flyover Country
26,211 posts, read 19,535,610 times
Reputation: 21679
Quote:
Originally Posted by Jill61 View Post
Dick Cheney, 2001 - 2009. Didn't work out too well, either.
Good answer.
It would be hard to find a more far right President in modern history than Bush-Cheney.

Their ideology was disastrous not only for America, but also for Afghanistan and Iraq.
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
 
Old 07-22-2010, 05:59 AM
 
Location: Sango, TN
24,868 posts, read 24,403,011 times
Reputation: 8672
Quote:
Originally Posted by odanny View Post
Good answer.
It would be hard to find a more far right President in modern history than Bush-Cheney.

Their ideology was disastrous not only for America, but also for Afghanistan and Iraq.
Bush and Cheney were conservatives in name only. They did deregulate the economy, but with medicare expansion, two unfunded wars, and countless other things they did during their administration, none of which was conservative or "far right"

Far right, look at Ron Paul. He's the furthest right Republican in the government right now.
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
 
Old 07-22-2010, 06:15 AM
 
30,075 posts, read 18,682,634 times
Reputation: 20895
Quote:
Originally Posted by miyu View Post
last far right pres was Bush Jr. and he pretty much mucked everything up such that we are still feeling the effects today.

Clinton administration had a BUDGET SURPLUS. After Bush it was all a downward spiral.
Bush was a far left republican and was not even a conservative. He was about as distant from 'far right" as one can get. He was a liberal in nearly every part of his policies.

The "message" of this thread is as follows:

Obama is a leftist and is screwing everything up. However, a conservative will screw things up as well, so what's the difference?

- Wrong. The economy was fine until the democratic senate and congress took control and massive uncontrolled spending, poor monitoring of FANNIE MAE and FREDDIE MAC, as well as the implementation of more social programs took control. After that, the economy has been in the tank and will be there until an administration more friendly to buisness and a fiscally responsible administration is in power. Until then, it will be chaos as usual.

Obama and the dems have ruined the economy to the extent that austerity measures will now be necessary, as they are in Europe. To paraphrase Obama, the car was in the ditch, but Obama pushed the car out of the ditch, into the woods, and lit it on fire. A true conservative will be NECESSARY to right the nation and correct the financial insanity of the last four years of dems and the current fiasco of Obama.
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
 
Old 07-22-2010, 06:49 AM
 
Location: The Republic of Texas
78,863 posts, read 46,663,022 times
Reputation: 18521
Quote:
Originally Posted by juppiter View Post
GW Bush was far to the right. Just because he wasn't fiscally conservative doesn't mean he wasn't far to the right. The GOP is only ever fiscally conservative when it's not in power.

The history of the Bush presidency has been completely rewritten this past year, and it's mind-blowing.


GW Bush, Like McCain and Graham, is a Progressive Republican. Very far from the far right side of the isle.
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
 
Old 07-22-2010, 06:54 AM
 
Location: The Republic of Texas
78,863 posts, read 46,663,022 times
Reputation: 18521
Quote:
Originally Posted by Memphis1979 View Post
Bull.

Lincoln suspended Habeas Corpus, nationalized the rail system, enacted a HUGE slavery freedom program that was by many accounts, unconstitutional.

If right means conservative in the small government sense, Lincoln was not far right at all.

My closest bet, would be Hoover.

That man took hands off economics, and this country, right to the brink.

Hoover was for a big government. Hoover was a Progressive just like FDR.
Hoover was a big spender. Hoover wanted Harding to handle the 1920 depression Wilson left us with, like FDR did with the 1933 depression.
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
 
Old 07-22-2010, 07:00 AM
 
105 posts, read 201,624 times
Reputation: 83
Default Bush was not a Far Right

Bush Jr. was a Liberal Period. Jeez.
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
 
Old 07-22-2010, 07:01 AM
 
507 posts, read 879,276 times
Reputation: 268
Quote:
Originally Posted by BentBow View Post
We have had centrist Presidents and far left Presidents. They don't seem to be working out too well.

Who was the last real far right President?
This cant be a serious question.
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
 
Old 07-22-2010, 08:56 AM
 
Location: PA
5,562 posts, read 5,685,644 times
Reputation: 1962
The last right wing president was probably thomas jefferson and james madison other then that we have had alot of people who have expanded government for bank institutions, military expanison and social welfare programs.
All of which are the british system of empire and socialism.
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
Please register to post and access all features of our very popular forum. It is free and quick. Over $68,000 in prizes has already been given out to active posters on our forum. Additional giveaways are planned.

Detailed information about all U.S. cities, counties, and zip codes on our site: City-data.com.


Reply
Please update this thread with any new information or opinions. This open thread is still read by thousands of people, so we encourage all additional points of view.

Quick Reply
Message:


Over $104,000 in prizes was already given out to active posters on our forum and additional giveaways are planned!

Go Back   City-Data Forum > General Forums > Politics and Other Controversies
Similar Threads

All times are GMT -6. The time now is 08:27 AM.

© 2005-2024, Advameg, Inc. · Please obey Forum Rules · Terms of Use and Privacy Policy · Bug Bounty

City-Data.com - Contact Us - Archive 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8, 9, 10, 11, 12, 13, 14, 15, 16, 17, 18, 19, 20, 21, 22, 23, 24, 25, 26, 27, 28, 29, 30, 31, 32, 33, 34, 35, 36, 37 - Top