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A better question is when is the last time we had a far left wing president?
George W. Bush was an insane right wing Nazi and Clinton was a centrist right wing corporatist.
A better question is when is the last time we had a far left wing president?
George W. Bush was an insane right wing Nazi and Clinton was a centrist right wing corporatist.
The wackadoodle view of the modern left on who the warmongers are/were….
I see in this thread some desire to connected war to the American Political Right. While it is clearly true that Dubya did get us into 2 wars and the Neo-Conservative movement has at its core a belief in remaking the middle east into stable democratic states, it is not true that war has historically been the purview of the right.
Let’s review the last century.
WW1: Progressive Democrat Woodrow Wilson wanted in. Republicans were at the time isolationists.
WW2: Progressive/ultra Liberal FDR wanted in but could not get in due to Republican opposition until Japan struck Pearl Harbor.
Korea: Moderate to liberal Democrat Truman got us into Korea. Moderate (right leaning) Eisenhower got us out.
Vietnam Moderate John Kennedy got us into Vietnam, ultra Liberal Lyndon Johnson escalated the war and moderate Richard Nixon got us out.
Iraq 1 (Desert Storm) Moderate (right leaning) George H. W. Bush got us in, with limited exposure and the world behind us, and he also got us out very quickly with no attempt at nation building.
Iraq 2 (Iraqi Freedom) George W. Bush got us in with the Neo-Conservative Nation building philosophy. We are still there. It looks like Barak Obama (Ultra Liberal Democrat) does have the intention of getting us out.
Afghanistan George W. Bush got us in and there is no end in sight with Barak Obama (Ultra Liberal Democrat) in the White House
From a purely historic viewpoint, American liberalism has been far more interested in engaging internationally and fighting wars around the world than other groups. It is true that there is a new version of the political right in this country that has gone from building a strong military (Ronald Reagan) as a deterrent to using the military around the world for nation building (Neo-Conservatives). But this is a very modern evolution. It is also true that democrats that came of age during Vietnam are vastly less likely to want to engage in military ventures but again, this is not the historic position.
A better question is when is the last time we had a far left wing president?
George W. Bush was an insane right wing Nazi and Clinton was a centrist right wing corporatist.
I have dyslexia - don't know my right from my left, so originally I was going to say James Madison (really meaning far left wing president) but as far as the
most far right President, I'll go with Ronald Reagan.
Since I believe present national politics and foreign agenda to be strangled by religious sects, I contend Madison to be far left: Madison endorsed government intervention to limit influence of religion, absolutely.
On the other hand, Reagan was the father of the new resurgence of the born again evangelical right wing politics we have today.
The division between the two now, can not be greater.
Dick Cheney, 2001 - 2009. Didn't work out too well, either.
You guys do know, do you not, that personal insults directed at posters through rep points can be traced to the person who made them, even if you don't have the guts to sign them?
You have a valid point. . . .and that's why I said "Bush/Cheney" was the far right president. .. .did you miss that part?
Even if one were to accept the insipid premise you espouse in this post… that Cheney was co-president etc, one would still fall very short of proving on any level that a Bush/Cheney presidency was “far right”
You simply do not have a clue.
Beyond that the very notion that Cheney was “president” as you suggest is…. Well, I cannot say what I think. It would likely get me banned.
Regardless of your invective, the facts are the facts. War has generally been the purview of the left. NOT the right. the bush years brought us left leaning thing like increased spending, increased national presence in education, expansion of Medicaid, an attempt to hand over citizenship to illegal aliens. ALL of those views are moderate/left leaning views.
You cannot call Bush a “far right” president. Even in the weird world of ranting wacked out liberals, you cannot call Cheney/Bush “far right”.
“Far right” is a myth. One would have to be a Maoist to believe Bush was “far right”. He wasn’t even extremist on any policy that I can discern. On Supreme Court nominees, he was certainly “right” but his view was pretty mainstream conservative. It was by no means extreme. He was “right” on cutting taxes. But he was no extremist. He still supported a progressive income tax. He did not oppose ALL taxation on corporations and capital gains.
I make no attempt to defend George Bush’s policies. They stand on their own. But one cannot argue that Bush was an extremist “far right” president.
You guys do know, do you not, that personal insults directed at posters through rep points can be traced to the person who made them, even if you don't have the guts to sign them?
Thanks for the rep point, though!!
I wouldn’t offer any personal insult, but your post was insulting. it also lacked any cogent information. It was at best devoid of truth and at worst, indicative of a mindset incapable of rational discussion on the subject.
Dick Cheney was a trusted advisor. He was likely one of the most powerful Vice Presidents in history. But he was not “president”.
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, so originally I was going to say James Madison (really meaning far left wing president) but as far as the
Dick Cheney was a far right (p)resident
