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Old 08-04-2010, 12:00 PM
 
Location: Brooklyn
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The Socialist Party says he isn't.
Surely after more than a year into the Obama Administration, you must realize that what the Socialist Party has to say is completely irrelevant. The main thing is that everyone else be allowed to smear him with whatever label happens to be convenient. At this point in time, "Socialist" seems to be among the favorites.

Always remember to keep rationality out of the picture--especially when dealing with people who don't like President Obama--and everything will be perfectly clear.
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Old 08-04-2010, 12:08 PM
 
Location: East Texas, with the Clan of the Cave Bear
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I find it so ironic that all of the Rabid Right Wing FASCISTS like to call President Obama a "socialist".....that's rich

Facists are similar to socialists ... they believe in the state running everything ... that sounds more like a Democrat description! (See: the Facists Nazi regime of Hitler's Germany). Although Fascist have disdain for Communism and I think the present ruling party for the most part admires them.

Another thought on Fascism is: Conservatives disdain the popular masses, while fascists mobilize and manipulate them. Sounds like the Proigressives to me.

Cali ... you must get your definitions right. Fascism fits neither party but is aligned more closely with the Progressive Left.

Gotta quit hurling that pablum around which you have been fed and so easily regurgitate.
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Old 08-04-2010, 12:09 PM
 
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because his agenda is to raise taxes and socialize various goods and services.
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Old 08-04-2010, 12:10 PM
 
Location: East Texas, with the Clan of the Cave Bear
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Obama is not a "pure" socialist and is definitely not a member of any Socialist party ... that doesn't change the ideas which he expouses and is a form of Socialism. He just wants the government to have complete control of the individual ... he is just a shakedown guy!
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Old 08-04-2010, 12:23 PM
 
Location: La lune et les étoiles
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When you automatically describe anyone who disagrees with him as racist you don't do yourself any favors. It honestly just makes you look bad. Really bad.
The problem is not when someone disagrees with him. There is no one on earth who can have 100% agreement with everything they say, think, believe, etc.

The issue is that the hatred against President Obama started well before he even took office. The intent of Rush, Hannity, Beck, the RepubliKlans and their likeminded ilk was to undermine any and every policy of the Obama administration no matter how beneficial it would be to the majority of Americans.

Most Black Americans recognize this tactic of attempting to undermine efforts which is used by bigots in many of our workplaces. So it was obvious when the President Obama haters followed the same script.

What I find interesting is that so many that "hate" our President hide behind terms like "socialist" instead of openly admitting the real reason for their over-the-top bashing. Why not just admit to being FASCISTS!!
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Old 08-04-2010, 12:25 PM
 
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The problem is not when someone disagrees with him. There is no one on earth who can have 100% agreement with everything they say, think, believe, etc.

The issue is that the hatred against President Obama started well before he even took office. The intent of Rush, Hannity, Beck, the RepubliKlans and their likeminded ilk was to undermine any and every policy of the Obama administration no matter how beneficial it would be to the majority of Americans.

Most Black Americans recognize this tactic of attempting to undermine efforts which is used by bigots in many of our workplaces. So it was obvious when the President Obama haters followed the same script.

What I find interesting is that so many that "hate" our President hide behind terms like "socialist" instead of openly admitting the real reason for their over-the-top bashing. Why not just admit to being FASCISTS!!
Do you think the people you mentioned would be any more supportive of these policies if the President were Hillary Clinton or Harry Reid?
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Old 08-04-2010, 12:27 PM
 
Location: La lune et les étoiles
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Facists are similar to socialists ... they believe in the state running everything ... that sounds more like a Democrat description! (See: the Facists Nazi regime of Hitler's Germany). Although Fascist have disdain for Communism and I think the present ruling party for the most part admires them.

Another thought on Fascism is: Conservatives disdain the popular masses, while fascists mobilize and manipulate them. Sounds like the Proigressives to me.

Cali ... you must get your definitions right. Fascism fits neither party but is aligned more closely with the Progressive Left.

Gotta quit hurling that pablum around which you have been fed and so easily regurgitate.
Maybe you should try following you own advice .

The RepubliKlans and their three headed media dog (Rush, Hannity, Beck) fit the definition of FASCISTS perfectly.
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Old 08-04-2010, 12:29 PM
 
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I think it was both but maybe just one. The Socialist Party says he isn't.
Because they are being nice and dont want to call him a communist?
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Old 08-04-2010, 12:30 PM
 
Location: La lune et les étoiles
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Do you think the people you mentioned would be any more supportive of these policies if the President were Hillary Clinton or Harry Reid?
The opposition would not be as loud. The rhetoric would not have racial undertones.
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Old 08-04-2010, 12:39 PM
 
Location: East Texas, with the Clan of the Cave Bear
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The problem is not when someone disagrees with him. There is no one on earth who can have 100% agreement with everything they say, think, believe, etc.

The issue is that the hatred against President Obama started well before he even took office. The intent of Rush, Hannity, Beck, the RepubliKlans and their likeminded ilk was to undermine any and every policy of the Obama administration no matter how beneficial it would be to the majority of Americans.

Most Black Americans recognize this tactic of attempting to undermine efforts which is used by bigots in many of our workplaces. So it was obvious when the President Obama haters followed the same script.

What I find interesting is that so many that "hate" our President hide behind terms like "socialist" instead of openly admitting the real reason for their over-the-top bashing. Why not just admit to being FASCISTS!!

This is sooo shallow a full of hate mongering. What a shame.


Sooo ... by your philosophy in this post you hate any white politician you disagree with because he is white ... thus you are a racist and a FASCIST !


DAYUMMMMM ... pure pitifulness is all I can say!
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