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Old 08-10-2010, 03:16 PM
 
Location: Chicagoland
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the unemployment number was 4.4%

After almost 4 years of democratic control, it is now 9.5%.

Bureau of Labor Statistics Data

the public debt was approximately $8.5 Trillion.

After almost 4 years of democratic control, it is now almost $13 Trillion.

Government - January 2007

the deficit was approximately $161 Billion.

After almost 4 years of democratic control, it is $1.4 Trillion.

http://www.federalbudget.com/HistoricalTables.pdf

gas prices were approximately $2/gallon.

After almost 4 years of democratic control, prices are pushing $3/gallon and during the "crisis" we had 2 years ago, they were above $4/gallon.

Now we know why liberals have never been trusted with the economy.
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Old 08-10-2010, 03:23 PM
 
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Sanrene, I personally believe this is the single most overlooked fact of the last 9.5 years. While most people on the left (and some independents and conservatives) tend to point the finger at GWB, the fact of the matter is that Congress holds the purse strings. There's no denying that Democrats have presided over the worst 4 years since the Jimmy Carter years, if not since the Great Depression.

It's time for the Liberal Left to stand up and acknowledge that the people they put their full trust in has failed this nation miserably.

Who will be the first to stand up acknowledge they screwed up by allowing these people to do the damage they've done?
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Old 08-10-2010, 03:27 PM
 
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The country took a nosedive when bush and the right had complete control of congress, pumping out far right bills like a machine. Leading to the crash in housing, banks, unemployment, everything. Dems got control of congress when the country was fed up with the bush fascist reign and absolutely slaughtered the republicans at the polls like nothing ever seen before. That's when they put the brakes on. We're still feeling the aftershock of the far right's disaster.
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Old 08-10-2010, 03:29 PM
 
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Now we know why liberals have never been trusted with the economy.
'It's all part of the 'Master Plan' set up by George Soros
as he instructed Obama to do


In a November 2008 interview with Spiegel, Soros made some comments that accurately outlined precisely the course that President Obama's administration would eventually pursue in 2009:
"I think we need a large stimulus package which will provide funds for state and local government to maintain their budgets -- because they are not allowed by the constitution to run a deficit. For such a program to be successful, the federal government would need to provide hundreds of billions of dollars. In addition, another infrastructure program is necessary. In total, the cost would be in the 300 to 600 billion dollar range [in addition to the $700 billion bailout which the government already had given to the financial industry]…. I think this is a great opportunity to finally deal with global warming and energy dependence. The U.S. needs a cap and trade system with auctioning of licenses for emissions rights. I would use the revenues from these auctions to launch a new, environmentally friendly energy policy. That would be yet another federal program that could help us to overcome the current stagnation."
The interviewer then said: "Your proposal would be dismissed on Wall Street as 'big government.' Republicans might call it European-style 'socialism.'" Soros replied:
"That is exactly what we need now. I am against market fundamentalism. I think this propaganda that government involvement is always bad has been very successful -- but also very harmful to our society…. I think it is better to have a government that wants to provide good government than a government that doesn't believe in government…. At times of recession, running a budget deficit is highly desirable. Once the economy begins to recover, you have to balance the budget. In 2010, the Bush tax cuts will expire and we should not extend them. But we will also need additional revenues."



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Old 08-10-2010, 03:30 PM
 
Location: the very edge of the continent
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Sanrene, I personally believe this is the single most overlooked fact of the last 9.5 years. While most people on the left (and some independents and conservatives) tend to point the finger at GWB, the fact of the matter is that Congress holds the purse strings.
It is SO important that everyone understands this next part that I have separated it out from your comment to emphasize it.
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There's no denying that Democrats have presided over the worst 4 years since the Jimmy Carter years, if not since the Great Depression.
...and lastly,
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It's time for the Liberal Left to stand up and acknowledge that the people they put their full trust in has failed this nation miserably.

Who will be the first to stand up acknowledge they screwed up by allowing these people to do the damage they've done?
Interesting challenge...
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Old 08-10-2010, 03:31 PM
 
Location: Southcentral Kansas
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Sanrene, I personally believe this is the single most overlooked fact of the last 9.5 years. While most people on the left (and some independents and conservatives) tend to point the finger at GWB, the fact of the matter is that Congress holds the purse strings. There's no denying that Democrats have presided over the worst 4 years since the Jimmy Carter years, if not since the Great Depression.

It's time for the Liberal Left to stand up and acknowledge that the people they put their full trust in has failed this nation miserably.

Who will be the first to stand up acknowledge they screwed up by allowing these people to do the damage they've done?
Now you two people discussing facts just can't look at yourselves as nice people. There are many here who will go along with moveon.org, CAP, and the others about how bad Bush really was and that there was just too much Bush bad for them to overcome that soon. They will still be talking about the 8 years of Bush and the Republicans in control of Congress when the election is over this fall. They really believe what George Soros tells them through his organization like I mentioned above. They just don't want to believe anything other than what Soros wants them to believe.
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Old 08-10-2010, 03:33 PM
 
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The country took a nosedive when bush and the right had complete control of congress, pumping out far right bills like a machine. Leading to the crash in housing, banks, unemployment, everything. Dems got control of congress when the country was fed up with the bush fascist reign and absolutely slaughtered the republicans at the polls like nothing ever seen before. That's when they put the brakes on. We're still feeling the aftershock of the far right's disaster.
When Democrats use conservative language to promote their agenda, it ultimately creates more support for Republicans.
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Old 08-10-2010, 03:34 PM
 
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The country took a nosedive when bush and the right had complete control of congress, pumping out far right bills like a machine. Leading to the crash in housing, banks, unemployment, everything. Dems got control of congress when the country was fed up with the bush fascist reign and absolutely slaughtered the republicans at the polls like nothing ever seen before. That's when they put the brakes on. We're still feeling the aftershock of the far right's disaster.

Barney Frank "putting the brakes on."


YouTube - ‪Barney Frank in 2005: What Housing Bubble?‬‎
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Old 08-10-2010, 03:40 PM
 
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Sanrene, I personally believe this is the single most overlooked fact of the last 9.5 years. While most people on the left (and some independents and conservatives) tend to point the finger at GWB, the fact of the matter is that Congress holds the purse strings. There's no denying that Democrats have presided over the worst 4 years since the Jimmy Carter years, if not since the Great Depression.

It's time for the Liberal Left to stand up and acknowledge that the people they put their full trust in has failed this nation miserably.

Who will be the first to stand up acknowledge they screwed up by allowing these people to do the damage they've done?
Then you're profoundly ignorant that the Great Recession was caused by reckless lending practices by financial institutions, securitized mortgages, and a speculative bubble based on these pillars which burst. And you have to be brain-dead to think that these practices weren't encouraged and enabled over a long, three-decade period by so-called fiscal-conservatives who forgot the lessons of the 1920s.
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Old 08-10-2010, 03:41 PM
 
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The country took a nosedive when bush and the right had complete control of congress, pumping out far right bills like a machine. Leading to the crash in housing, banks, unemployment, everything. Dems got control of congress when the country was fed up with the bush fascist reign and absolutely slaughtered the republicans at the polls like nothing ever seen before. That's when they put the brakes on. We're still feeling the aftershock of the far right's disaster.
Which brakes were those? Which far right bills were those?
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