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The inexorable trend is very clear to anyone willing to look at the data.
Not really...the poll was on acceptance of gay marriage..ask them if they ask the gay lifestyle as normal and you will get an entirely different answer....
I now detest the Mormon religion more than I dislike every other religion. Back in 2008 when prop 8 shed it's light right around Election day, I was a senior in high school, and there was a group of mormons who went bat sh*t crazy posting flyers, asking for donations, protesting on street corners against gay marriage. It made me sick. I wanted to punch them in the face even though a majority of them were girls, I still wanted to punch them and then they were giving out little cards for that big mormon temple here. They gave it to me and I ripped it in half right in front of their face. I understand people have their own beliefs but they crossed the line. That was just hate. Plus the mormons are known for polygamy so they certainly shouldn't be preaching about marriage.
Another dumb argument is when people found out Prop 8 was overturned they said "It's not fair to overturn something that a majority of voters were for." Civil rights should never be voted on. if we had voted on slavery and blacks back in the day, I'm sure it would have lasted much longer than it actually did. I find it ignorant that a majority should be allowed to vote on a minority. Just rediculous.
Not really...the poll was on acceptance of gay marriage..ask them if they ask the gay lifestyle as normal and you will get an entirely different answer....
Nice try...
How about on the "moral acceptability" of homosexual relations?
People don't consider adoption "normal" either. It is an "alternative" method of achieving parenthood. It is not "normal" by definition, since it is not practiced by the majority. But it is also an acceptable method.
Conversely, it was once "normal" to own slaves, to subjugate women, to beat children. That didn't make them right, or good, or acceptable.
I now detest the Mormon religion more than I dislike every other religion. Back in 2008 when prop 8 shed it's light right around Election day, I was a senior in high school, and there was a group of mormons who went bat sh*t crazy posting flyers, asking for donations, protesting on street corners against gay marriage. It made me sick. I wanted to punch them in the face even though a majority of them were girls, I still wanted to punch them and then they were giving out little cards for that big mormon temple here. They gave it to me and I ripped it in half right in front of their face. I understand people have their own beliefs but they crossed the line. That was just hate. Plus the mormons are known for polygamy so they certainly shouldn't be preaching about marriage.
Another dumb argument is when people found out Prop 8 was overturned they said "It's not fair to overturn something that a majority of voters were for." Civil rights should never be voted on. if we had voted on slavery and blacks back in the day, I'm sure it would have lasted much longer than it actually did. I find it ignorant that a majority should be allowed to vote on a minority. Just rediculous.
Where any of them hot? You could have asked to see their magic underwear
(seriously, the mormon faith believes that if you wear your temple garments, they are bullet proof)
At any rate, they have a constitutional right for freedom of speech. However, you have a constitutional right to make fun of them too.
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If it would aid in doing away with all this racial BS, then yes!
I find things like this only further divides PEOPLE...
Too bad some folks didn't acknowledge the contributions, achievements and historical events of all Americans from the very beginning or else we woiuldn't need a separate month to celebrate historical accomplishments and events of Americans based on race or ethnicity. But since it was decided by many to exclude the historical events and accomplishments of people by race or ethnicity here we are today. The reality is many Americans are still ignorant by choice of other Americans historical accomplisments based on race and ethnicity. I say leave the separate historical months in place until the historical accomplisments and events of ALL AMERICANS are incorporated as AMERICAN HISTORY!
People don't consider adoption "normal" either. It is an "alternative" method of achieving parenthood. It is not "normal" by definition, since it is not practiced by the majority. But it is also an acceptable method.
Conversely, it was once "normal" to own slaves, to subjugate women, to beat children. That didn't make them right, or good, or acceptable.
"Normal" is far too subjective.
Thanks, Wingsy! I was about to dig up that Gallup link. But I bet wdavid002 imagines some reason to discard that one as well...
I now detest the Mormon religion more than I dislike every other religion. Back in 2008 when prop 8 shed it's light right around Election day, I was a senior in high school, and there was a group of mormons who went bat sh*t crazy posting flyers, asking for donations, protesting on street corners against gay marriage. It made me sick. I wanted to punch them in the face even though a majority of them were girls, I still wanted to punch them and then they were giving out little cards for that big mormon temple here. They gave it to me and I ripped it in half right in front of their face. I understand people have their own beliefs but they crossed the line. That was just hate. Plus the mormons are known for polygamy so they certainly shouldn't be preaching about marriage.
Another dumb argument is when people found out Prop 8 was overturned they said "It's not fair to overturn something that a majority of voters were for." Civil rights should never be voted on. if we had voted on slavery and blacks back in the day, I'm sure it would have lasted much longer than it actually did. I find it ignorant that a majority should be allowed to vote on a minority. Just rediculous.
Actually the Mormon experience with their form of marriage being outlawed gives them a special position and perspective from which to protest those forms of marriage which do not conform to the societal norms and definitions of one man + one woman. Afterall, why should they be alone in not practicing the marriage style of their choice?
I'm surprised that the gay community doesn't recognize this fact. Oh wait, no I'm not.
If the current ruling gets through the Supreme Court then every stae in the country is going to have to allow same sex marriages and divorces. The ruling was based on the 14th Amendment of the Consitution was extremely well written. It's logical, factual and pretty straightforward. If the Supreme Court can't find another part of the Consitution the refutes Judge Walkers ruling then same sex marriage will be the law of the land.
Ok, if the Supreme Court says it then that's the law of the land.
My post was about the law in CA vs the law in TX as it stands today.
We've already had 2 cases where same sex couples moved to TX and tried to get a legal divorce and tried to fight our amendment. Didn't work out for either.
Actually the Mormon experience with their form of marriage being outlawed gives them a special position and perspective from which to protest those forms of marriage which do not conform to the societal norms and definitions of one man + one woman. Afterall, why should they be alone in not practicing the marriage style of their choice?
I'm surprised that the gay community doesn't recognize this fact. Oh wait, no I'm not.
That is interesting. So if same sex marriage is allowed then the Morman's have some ground to push for their form of marriage as well.
Can't discriminate against one form over another, can we ?
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I understand people have their own beliefs but they crossed the line. That was just hate. Plus the mormons are known for polygamy so they certainly shouldn't be preaching about marriage.
