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Old 08-15-2010, 11:26 AM
 
Location: it depends
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Originally Posted by ambient View Post
If you do some research of recent statistics on this, you'll find that he has dramatically improved America's standing over his predecessor in much of the world.

Helpful hint: the world consists of more places than just the Middle East.
Point taken. But this helps us how??
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Old 08-15-2010, 11:49 AM
 
Location: Land of debt and Corruption
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I was in Morocco in July. When people found out I was an American the first thing they did was praise President Obama so I'll believe my personal experience over this poll.
Yes, because anecdotal evidence always trumps respected polling data of nearly 4,000 individuals performed by a respected international organization.

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If you do some research of recent statistics on this, you'll find that he has dramatically improved America's standing over his predecessor in much of the world.

Helpful hint: the world consists of more places than just the Middle East.
Feel free to make a thread about how well Obama has increased our global standing in countries other than the ME. This thread is about how he's failed yet again on one of his many campaign promises, and this was one of his biggest issues since we are actively involved in conflict in that particular area of the globe.

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The Middle Easterners don't love Obama? Oh, I'm so distressed!

Give me a break. I would love to see the reaction from right-wingers if polls said that Middle Easterners approved of Obama.

What rubbish.
So I guess you don't care that muslims and arabs in the ME have not changed their opinion of the US, even with a change in leadership? You (the left) were surely disturbed over our low global standing when Bush was POTUS, but now you don't care? Interesting.
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Old 08-15-2010, 12:21 PM
 
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So I guess you don't care that muslims and arabs in the ME have not changed their opinion of the US, even with a change in leadership? You (the left) were surely disturbed over our low global standing when Bush was POTUS, but now you don't care? Interesting.
What world do you live in?

I don't ever expect the majority of Middle Easterners to approve of what the U.S. is doing. Anyone who complains about the low approval rating for Obama among Middle Easterners obviously holds an irrational dislike for anything associated with President Obama. It doesn't matter what Obama does, you'll find a way to complain about him.
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Old 08-15-2010, 04:48 PM
 
Location: La lune et les étoiles
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By the way OP, I will take my "anecdotal" experience of actually sitting and discussing President Obama & the United States with people in Morocco (you know actually being in an Arab nation) over your sitting behind a computer in Des Moines pulling poll numbers off the net

There is great optimism in the world about President Obama that people like you simply will never understand. President Obama is much more respectful in comparison to the Bush administration's scorch earth approach to dealing with other cultures.
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Old 08-16-2010, 06:03 AM
 
Location: Raleigh, NC
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By the way OP, I will take my "anecdotal" experience of actually sitting and discussing President Obama & the United States with people in Morocco (you know actually being in an Arab nation) over your sitting behind a computer in Des Moines pulling poll numbers off the net
Yawn...come back to us when you stop by Mecca and get the same response. Also, statisticians' results are more respected than one person's travels (or claim on travels LOL).
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Old 08-16-2010, 06:33 AM
 
Location: Brooklyn
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Yes, because anecdotal evidence always trumps respected polling data of nearly 4,000 individuals performed by a respected international organization.
...To say nothing of the fact that polling nearly 4,000 individuals presents a completely accurate picture of the way hundreds of millions think.
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Old 08-16-2010, 08:27 AM
 
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Yawn
You can yawn I will laugh.

Im doubt you were yawning when the messiah was telling you how he was going to change the world in 2008?

Im sure you were yawning in 2008 as the Messiah appeard between the greek columns in Denver telling us he was going to bring peace and prosperity to all as the 80,000 at Invesco field went bizerk.

What a joke this administration has turned out to be. And it was all brought upon by themselves.
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Old 08-16-2010, 08:32 AM
 
Location: Raleigh, NC
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...To say nothing of the fact that polling nearly 4,000 individuals presents a completely accurate picture of the way hundreds of millions think.
Sampling (statistics) - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

n = 100 <=> B = 10%, n = 400 <=> B = 5%, n = 1000 <=> B = ~3%, and n = 10000 <=> B = 1%

It takes only 400 to achieve a representative sample size for the population. 4,000 is MORE than enough.
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Old 08-16-2010, 08:35 AM
 
Location: Land of debt and Corruption
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...To say nothing of the fact that polling nearly 4,000 individuals presents a completely accurate picture of the way hundreds of millions think.
Oh I get it. You don't like the results of the poll therefore you denigrate all polling as inaccurate.

They do this poll annually to note trends in opinions of people in the ME. Nobody claims that polling gives a 100% accurate picture of the way millions of people think, but more times than not it does give insight as to the changing opinions of people and yields very useful information. Heck, even your Messiah himself relies on POLLING DATA.
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Old 08-16-2010, 11:12 AM
 
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Bascially the middle east is already barginign for when Obama leave which he annoced years ago. If the police where leaving your neighborhood on a cetai9n date you would too.
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