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Fortunately, we have a Constitution that supersedes Sharia Law, that supersedes all theocratic considerations. We don't need to fear Islam. Sharia Law is not a threat.
At this proportion of population, yet, we have nothing to fear. But look at countries in europe with higher muslim populations. There are more and more calls for more islamic based governance (not exactly full shariah, only the craziest like Islam4UK do that). When that happens, society will become more conservative, and teh lib erals values you cherish will begin to erode.
At this proportion of population, yet, we have nothing to fear. But look at countries in europe with higher muslim populations. There are more and more calls for more islamic based governance (not exactly full shariah, only the craziest like Islam4UK do that). When that happens, society will become more conservative, and teh lib erals values you cherish will begin to erode.
That's about the way I have it. Get a few loose progressives behind the wheel supported by a bit of international cash and here comes that ol' shari'a creep.
That's what they (liberals) don't get I think. That we are fighting for them too. Liberal society is an antithesis to what these people believe and liberals would be the first to experience it's bad effects.
I'm curious, if the we can accommodate the religious laws of those who practice Santaria, see Church of Lukumi Babalu Aye v. City of Hialeah, 508 U.S. 520 (1993), Native Americans, Native Americans, see Employment Division, Department of Human Resources of Oregon v. Smith, 494 U.S. 872 (1990), and Jehovah Witnesses listed in more than two dozen Supreme Court decisions, more than any group I can think of, why cannot laws pertaining Muslims be recognized as long as they do not violate basic criminal statutes particularly those involving violence against the person. As a nation we have done a pretty good job of balancing religious rights vs the rights of society, particularly when it has come to issues of minor children and the Christian Scientist. I have a great deal of faith in the our legal system, but maybe its just me.
It's more complicated than that. I don't mind if they want Halal foods or even time to worship. There are other things that an approach like that wouldn't be able to touch such as the teaching of the slaying of Christians and Jews in their mosques and in their religious schools to impressionable kids.
This is something that their leaders must address on a fundamental level to redesign their religion if it is to coexist with other people. One problem is that they are not suppose to change it.
A leader of the Hamas terror group yesterday jumped into the emotional debate on the plan to construct a mosque near Ground Zero -- insisting Muslims "have to build" it there. "We have to build everywhere," said Mahmoud al-Zahar, a co-founder of Hamas and the organization's chief on the Gaza Strip. "In every area we have, [as] Muslim[s], we have to pray, and this mosque is the only site of prayer," he said on "Aaron Klein Investigative Radio" on WABC.
Mayor Bloomberg, a strong supporter of the plan, declined comment through a spokesman.
Feisal Abdul Rauf, the imam behind the proposed mosque, and two other leaders of the plan who previously had commented extensively, were silent yesterday.
I'm curious, if the we can accommodate the religious laws of those who practice Santaria, see Church of Lukumi Babalu Aye v. City of Hialeah, 508 U.S. 520 (1993), Native Americans, Native Americans, see Employment Division, Department of Human Resources of Oregon v. Smith, 494 U.S. 872 (1990), and Jehovah Witnesses listed in more than two dozen Supreme Court decisions, more than any group I can think of, why cannot laws pertaining Muslims be recognized as long as they do not violate basic criminal statutes particularly those involving violence against the person. As a nation we have done a pretty good job of balancing religious rights vs the rights of society, particularly when it has come to issues of minor children and the Christian Scientist. I have a great deal of faith in the our legal system, but maybe its just me.
I think a major difference is that many if not all of those groups you mention are neither as large nor aggressive as Islam.
In some area Muslims are allowed to use some aspects of Shari'a as long as they do NOT interfere with or violate existing local and/or state laws. But again, Islam is aggressive and will when given the chance use existing law to extend its influence.
You recite this ONE experience and accuse ALL Muslims of intolerance. Ever go to Dubai? The Emirate allows just about any religion to be practiced. They only thing they don't allow is non-Islamic religions to actively recruit converts.
Maybe these Muslims wouldn't be frothing at the mouth if Jews hadn't forced Palestinians out of Palestine in 1947 with no due process and no compensation for their property and then contnued for 60+ years to disenfranchise them politically and economically.
You can't blame the anger of Arabs strictly on religious intolerance. Israel has a terrible human rights record in regards to Arabs in Israel and on the West Bank.
Sounds like you want us to understand and be tolerant over why a muslim didn't like this 16yo at the time, or why they don't like Jews in general (actually anyone besides other muslims), due to deaths and human rights lost over the land, then shouldn't muslims understand why we are frothing over their desire for a mosque so close to the WTC where we incurred deaths over their believers.
Why they can't be tolerant towards our sensitivity towards 9/11. Israels human rights may be off, but so were the Muslims human rights towards our 9/11 victims. Build your mosque in NY, just not near WTC. But the insistance on having it near WTC screams that someone wants a victory flag.
It's just bad taste for them to build there, and offensive, but then again, they really don't care about us, if we like them or accept them more.
Jazzy and Ovcatto and everyone else, I want you to read this link so you will understand what the agenda is with Islam, all of Islam. It is a bit long and written by a former muslim who explains it quite well.
Just think of the number of non-muslim voters am"nasty" would add to the voting pool. Just a thought.
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