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Old 08-16-2010, 11:36 AM
 
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Islam Means the End of Religious Freedom

At an Iftar dinner in the White House, Barack Hussein Obama proclaimed that he supports the building of the Ground Zero mosque as part of his "unshakable commitment to religious freedom". Which of course sounds very noble and good, until you ask a single question, Where is the religious freedom in the Muslim world?

Obama has made the case for Islam in America, on the grounds that America's religious diversity promotes the religious freedom of all. Islam no less than any other belief system. Yet if introducing Islam into America promotes religious freedom, then why is there no religious freedom in the Muslim world? Why are churches firebombed in Malaysia because Christians presumed to use the word Allah? Why are non-Muslims forbidden to enter the city of Mecca, from which Jews and Christians were ethnically cleansed by Mohammed? Why are Coptic Christians being oppressed and humiliated by the Egyptian government? Why are Muslims murdering Buddhist teachers in Thailand? There are a thousand examples, all of which add up to a single conclusion-- Muslims demand religious freedom, yet are not willing to give it to others.

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The question is do we want to import this into the United States? Because history and current events show that there is no better way to insure the end of religious freedom in the United States, than to introduce Islam into the picture. Over and over again, the rise of Islam has meant the eradication of religious freedom. And those who fail to learn from that past, will be doomed to repeat it.
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Old 08-16-2010, 11:43 AM
 
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The first amendment to the US Constitution states:

"Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the Government for a redress of grievances."

So, this only applies to Christians?

Statements like yours are why I am truly concerned for this country.
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Old 08-16-2010, 11:45 AM
 
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The first amendment to the US Constitution states:

"Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the Government for a redress of grievances."

So, this only applies to Christians?


Statements like yours are why I am truly concerned for this country.
according to the christians, yes.
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Old 08-16-2010, 11:47 AM
 
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Apparently the Constitution isn't imprtant to the Right Wing Nuts
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Old 08-16-2010, 11:51 AM
 
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I am a Christian and certainly don't believe that. They have the right to build it there. Under there own bible it would be unethical for them to do so, but they have the right. We have the right to investigate it. If it is found to be supportive of terrorism, or funded by terrorist, or thinks for one second that there religious laws super-seed our own countries laws, we have the right and the responsibility to then eliminate it, not as Christians, but as Americans.
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Old 08-16-2010, 11:53 AM
 
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Super-seed?

EDIT: yes, I know what you meant.

The word you are looking for, and not finding, is "supersede."
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Old 08-16-2010, 11:55 AM
 
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according to the christians, yes.

I'm a Christian, and I believe the Constitution applies to all religions.
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Old 08-16-2010, 11:55 AM
 
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Hamas nod for Ground Zero mosque - NYPOST.com
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Old 08-16-2010, 11:57 AM
 
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Islam Means the End of Religious Freedom

At an Iftar dinner in the White House, Barack Hussein Obama proclaimed that he supports the building of the Ground Zero mosque as part of his "unshakable commitment to religious freedom". Which of course sounds very noble and good, until you ask a single question, Where is the religious freedom in the Muslim world?

Obama has made the case for Islam in America, on the grounds that America's religious diversity promotes the religious freedom of all. Islam no less than any other belief system. Yet if introducing Islam into America promotes religious freedom, then why is there no religious freedom in the Muslim world? Why are churches firebombed in Malaysia because Christians presumed to use the word Allah? Why are non-Muslims forbidden to enter the city of Mecca, from which Jews and Christians were ethnically cleansed by Mohammed? Why are Coptic Christians being oppressed and humiliated by the Egyptian government? Why are Muslims murdering Buddhist teachers in Thailand? There are a thousand examples, all of which add up to a single conclusion-- Muslims demand religious freedom, yet are not willing to give it to others.

...

The question is do we want to import this into the United States? Because history and current events show that there is no better way to insure the end of religious freedom in the United States, than to introduce Islam into the picture. Over and over again, the rise of Islam has meant the eradication of religious freedom. And those who fail to learn from that past, will be doomed to repeat it.

I'm sorry...I wasn't aware Congress was trying to limit them from building.



On that note, though....has no one ever heard of a Christian church being told they can't build in a given area because it's not zoned for religious/non-profit use? Or that the local governments wouldn't give a permit? Honestly....I don't understand why they can't restrict them from building--except that Mayor Bloomberg is afraid of someone showing up at his office with some C4 strapped to his chest.
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Old 08-16-2010, 11:57 AM
 
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Super-seed?
sure....held above, in higher regard.
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