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Old 08-25-2010, 10:05 AM
 
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BBC News - Dozens killed in wave of bombings across Iraq

Dozens killed in Iraq today because they belonged to the wrong sect. This happens virtually on a daily basis in the muslim world, yet I don't ever see any loud protests when muslims kill each other. I do see if if non muslims accidentally kill muslims, or pictures get drawn of mohammed.

Where is the outrage?
Dozens of bodies discovered in Mexico. Where is your outrage? Why haven't you posted about this?

72 bodies found on a ranch in Mexico - CNN.com

These "where is the outrage" posts are becoming tiresome. No group of people have the time or energy to be outraged about every single tragedy in the world. You know this. I know this. We all know this. So every one of these "where is the outrage" posts is a farce. There's outrage somewhere from someone. But you can't force people to be outraged about events that are halfway around the world. People feel outrage when their sensibilities have been violated. Trying to dictate to people when and how they should be outraged is ridiculous.
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Old 08-25-2010, 10:07 AM
 
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BBC News - Dozens killed in wave of bombings across Iraq

Dozens killed in Iraq today because they belonged to the wrong sect. This happens virtually on a daily basis in the muslim world, yet I don't ever see any loud protests when muslims kill each other. I do see if if non muslims accidentally kill muslims, or pictures get drawn of mohammed.

Where is the outrage?
I know I am asking a bit much, but I want you to consider something. What if the reason for withdrawal is merely to create a scenario where the US is asked to go back in?

Remember when England left India. What happened? It was deliberate.

Remember when Belgium left Rawanda. What happened? It was deliberate.

Check this out, everyone surrounding Iraq and those in Iraq are aware that this is not going to go well. Unless the US is asked we will not go in or should it be short of a civil war. (Which we already know is going to happen).
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Old 08-25-2010, 10:07 AM
 
Location: Arlington, VA
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They're muslims radicals. What kind of expectations do you have of them?

I expect them to act like barbarians. So when they do, it's not surprising at all.

When we do something similar, it is a bigger deal AS IT SHOULD BE. We are held to a higher standard because we aspire to a higher standard.
But there's lots of outrage over cartoons of mohammed, or if non muslims accidentally kill muslims.

Why isn't there this outrage from the moderates when muslims kill muslims on a daily basis?
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Old 08-25-2010, 10:08 AM
 
Location: Arlington, VA
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Dozens of bodies discovered in Mexico. Where is your outrage? Why haven't you posted about this?

72 bodies found on a ranch in Mexico - CNN.com

These "where is the outrage" posts are becoming tiresome. No group of people have the time or energy to be outraged about every single tragedy in the world. You know this. I know this. We all know this. So every one of these "where is the outrage" posts is a farce. There's outrage somewhere from someone. But you can't force people to be outraged about events that are halfway around the world. People feel outrage when their sensibilities have been violated. Trying to dictate to people when and how they should be outraged is ridiculous.

Those people were killed over drugs. Drug are illegal, and I don't use them. They weren't killed because of religious differences.

There's FAR more outrage in the muslim world over stupid cartoons than there is for the DAILY suicide bombings in the muslim world.
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Old 08-25-2010, 10:10 AM
 
Location: Arlington, VA
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I know I am asking a bit much, but I want you to consider something. What if the reason for withdrawal is merely to create a scenario where the US is asked to go back in?

Remember when England left India. What happened? It was deliberate.

Remember when Belgium left Rawanda. What happened? It was deliberate.

Check this out, everyone surrounding Iraq and those in Iraq are aware that this is not going to go well. Unless the US is asked we will not go in or should it be short of a civil war. (Which we already know is going to happen).
Wrong, the reason why there was conflict an dviolence upon those withdrawals was because of the "diversity" of the areas.

Notice how there wasn't this violence when the US left Japan and germany.
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Old 08-25-2010, 10:11 AM
 
Location: Wisconsin
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BBC News - Dozens killed in wave of bombings across Iraq

Dozens killed in Iraq today because they belonged to the wrong sect. This happens virtually on a daily basis in the muslim world, yet I don't ever see any loud protests when muslims kill each other. I do see if if non muslims accidentally kill muslims, or pictures get drawn of mohammed.

Where is the outrage?
A moderate Muslim on the issue of suicide bombs and murder, is that its acceptable some of the time.

Seriously though, I have no clue what a "moderate Muslim" is supposed to be. We are talking about people using Islam as a reason for murdering innocent people, and I do not see a moderate stance to that. Either you are in favor of freedom, and tolerance and respect for life, or you are not, there is no moderation about it.
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Old 08-25-2010, 10:12 AM
 
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Those people were killed over drugs. Drug are illegal, and I don't use them. They weren't killed because of religious differences.

There's FAR more outrage in the muslim world over stupid cartoons than there is for the DAILY suicide bombings in the muslim world.
No, there is outrage. Unfortunately, you and much of your little posse starts out with bs over how that is the religion of peace. You don't actually give a damn about those who are killed, you want to use them to further your agenda. Which is quite sick, I might add.
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Old 08-25-2010, 10:13 AM
 
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A moderate Muslim on the issue of suicide bombs and murder, is that its acceptable some of the time.

Seriously though, I have no clue what a "moderate Muslim" is supposed to be. We are talking about people using Islam as a reason for murdering innocent people, and I do not see a moderate stance to that. Either you are in favor of freedom, and tolerance and respect for life, or you are not, there is no moderation about it.
Also, get a so called moderate to say they condemn all forms of terrorism. But then, that takes into account what they define as terrorism. lot of so called moderates think that targetting israeli civilians isn't terrorism.
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Old 08-25-2010, 10:13 AM
 
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Those people were killed over drugs. Drug are illegal, and I don't use them. They weren't killed because of religious differences.

There's FAR more outrage in the muslim world over stupid cartoons than there is for the DAILY suicide bombings in the muslim world.
So?

You are feeling outraged?

Then explain why everyone else should feel outrage.

Make an argument. Be persuasive. Instead of trying to put down or shame people, tell them what's going on and get them to be outraged.

Otherwise, this thread is not about what's going on in Iraq, at all. It's about partisan politics in the United States. Worst of all, partisan politics being played by someone who doesn't even have a horse in the race, since she isn't an American.
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Old 08-25-2010, 10:14 AM
 
Location: Arlington, VA
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No, there is outrage. Unfortunately, you and much of your little posse starts out with bs over how that is the religion of peace. You don't actually give a damn about those who are killed, you want to use them to further your agenda. Which is quite sick, I might add.
Yes, i'm so much worse than people who kill other people on a daily basis because they belong to wrong sect

How dare I speak my mind or have opinions! I should be silenced!
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