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“Osama bin Laden wins by 'proving' that America has an agenda of occupation in the Middle East. And, we continue to walk into his trap and hand him up his best recruitment tool in his efforts to incite hatred and terrorism against the United States." RP
If Ron Paul is allowed to run for President, he would win and hopefully re-build our country. Is it too much to ask after a Socialist experiment, that we give a try again with the ideals of the Founding Fathers that proved themselves successful (until they collapsed under the weight of Big Government)?
It is sad to watch the tangled pile of debris that was our economy, burning quietly down to nothing, while our government walks around throwing worthless fiat currency on the ground and wondering why the rubble pile hasn't transformed itself into a shining, well-built, fully functional airplane yet.
US forces still in fight at end of combat mission - Yahoo! News (http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20100901/ap_on_re_mi_ea/ml_iraq - broken link)
Even as President Barack Obama was announcing the end of combat in Iraq, American soldiers were sealing off a northern village early Wednesday as their Iraqi partners raided houses and arrested dozens of suspected insurgents.
While the Obama administration has dramatically reduced the number of troops and rebranded the mission, the operation in Hawija was a reminder that U.S. forces are still engaged in hunting down and killing al-Qaida militants — and could still have to defend themselves against attacks.
“The President’s announcement that all U.S. combat troops have left Iraq is no more believable than the 'Mission Accomplished' declaration was in 2003.
“Once again, we are being told the mission has been accomplished and our brave men and women are coming back home. Though the people are hopeful they remain skeptical, and rightfully so.
“The biggest problem is that success in Iraq is undefinable since the mission was never defined. The reasons given for the invasion were based on misinformation. Now, the war has cost us hundreds of billions of dollars and this has contributed significantly to our economic woes.
“Forty-four hundred Americans are dead, thirty thousand severely wounded, and more than a hundred thousand are suffering from serious health problems related to Post Traumatic Stress Syndrome. This alone should tell us that it was not worth the investment and the needless sacrifice of our young people and the taxpayers.
“It is deceitful to imply we will avoid hostilities with this new policy. We still have to contend with:
the 50,000 troops carrying weapons remain in Iraq
the 100,000 contractors that remain with more expected to go to Iraq
the 9,000 special ops personnel trained in assassinations that remain in Iraq
a huge embassy, bigger than the Vatican, that will remain
Dozens of military bases that will stay
Al Qaeda organizations that did not exist before the war
Muqtada al Sadr, a strong nationalist who has gained much political power
The fact that Iran benefits tremendously with the Shiites now in power in Iraq and is a close ally of al Sadr
“Osama bin Laden wins by 'proving' that America has an agenda of occupation in the Middle East. And, we continue to walk into his trap and hand him up his best recruitment tool in his efforts to incite hatred and terrorism against the United States.
“What’s worse, President Obama made it clear last night that the troops and resources leaving Iraq will not come home to defend our country or ease our economic woes. They will instead be diverted to Afghanistan, perhaps also Pakistan and, I fear, even Iran.
“From my viewpoint we are the losers in this fool’s errand of endless war. Tragically, this new policy is not one of peace but merely a charade that will severely undermine our national security and continue us down the path to bankruptcy—a threat that we best not long ignore.”
Didn't Woodrow Wilson pull the same kinda crap and got us into WW-I?
Leave it to a Progressive to lie to you! pft!
I read all the posts and everyone makes some good points in the Iraq issue. From my point of view, I've always liked Ron Paul in a quirky sort of way. He sounds perfectly logical and then suddenly he will propose some totally off the wall idea. I'm frankly disappointed with his response. I mean being a congressman he of all people knows that Obama has committed and has the approval of the Iraqi Gov. to bring ALL troops home by Dec 31, 2011. I know nobody in this thread mentioned it. Obama kept his word he made when elected. He kept the Aug 31st deadline. I see no reason why he wouldn't keep the Dec 31,2011 deadline. Ron Pauls speech was pure politics claiming some type of subtrafuge is going on when that's not the case at all. Something he does not generally do.
While I usually ignore Mr. Paul's pronouncements, I think he makes some generally good points (some I have no idea about, including the 9,000 special operatives trained in assassination).
Regardless, 50,000 USA soldiers still in Iraq seems like a lot to be left behind after a 'withdrawal'.
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