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Old 09-02-2010, 10:37 AM
 
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So those who get sick should pay possibly w/their lives because illegals have been draining the system for how long without ANYONE doing anything before, it had to come to this?
It is so sad that the sick & poor are expendable & as someone stated earlier,this will happen as other states have money problems.
Well maybe it will save granny from having the plug pulled. <Just let those poor leaches of society die first.
What is your solution? Do you stand behind Arizona trying to get the Federal Government to enforce current immigration laws? Your OP did not seem to support Arizona but blamed it. Do you not see this is a result of the Federal government refusing to do its job?

Do you understand the billions of dollars freed up for states if taxpayers were not paying for 3-hots and a cot for illegals in AZ prisons, not paying for the children of illegals to attend AZ public schools, not absorbing the losses of medical care unpaid by illegals, the money used to prosecute identity theft by illegals in AZ, etc... ?
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Old 09-02-2010, 10:38 AM
 
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Good.

Now just get rid of public assistance altogether and we'll be getting somewhere.


Imagine all the money we would have for national sustainability/progress if we didn't give a vast majority of it to people who can't take care of themselves.

"America, the land of opportunity (unless you don't want opportunity, then the people who do will support you your entire life)."
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Old 09-02-2010, 10:41 AM
 
Location: In the desert
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AHHH the empathy from the family values crowd is astounding.

I do not pretend to have the answers but, I cannot condone sentencing those who are poor & sick to death if in need of a transplant.
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Old 09-02-2010, 10:44 AM
 
Location: Pinal County, Arizona
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So those who get sick should pay possibly w/their lives because illegals have been draining the system for how long without ANYONE doing anything before, it had to come to this?
It is so sad that the sick & poor are expendable & as someone stated earlier,this will happen as other states have money problems.
Well maybe it will save granny from having the plug pulled. <Just let those poor leaches of society die first.
Illegals should NOT be covered under AHCCCS.

Period
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Old 09-02-2010, 10:45 AM
 
Location: In the desert
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Good.

Now just get rid of public assistance altogether and we'll be getting somewhere.


Imagine all the money we would have for national sustainability/progress if we didn't give a vast majority of it to people who can't take care of themselves.

"America, the land of opportunity (unless you don't want opportunity, then the people who do will support you your entire life)."
Hope you don't lose your job,become unable to work & sick. Hope your don't ever have a sick child.
So you want to just throw away the vast majority of people who get sick for money for progress? Did I really read that?
And what "progress" is worth lives to you?
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Old 09-02-2010, 10:49 AM
 
Location: In the desert
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Illegals should NOT be covered under AHCCCS.

Period
The state could have looked into many other things to cut/close etc before it decided the death sentence for the poor & sick.
Making THEM pay for this is wrong.
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Old 09-02-2010, 10:52 AM
 
Location: Pinal County, Arizona
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The state could have looked into many other things to cut/close etc before it decided the death sentence for the poor & sick.
Making THEM pay for this is wrong.
Do you agree with removing Illegal Immigrants from AHCCCS roles?
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Old 09-02-2010, 11:14 AM
 
Location: In the desert
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do you agree with removing illegal immigrants from ahcccs roles?
absolutly!
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Old 09-02-2010, 11:18 AM
 
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Arizona AHCCCS Makes Big Changes to Coverage (http://www.myfoxphoenix.com/dpp/health/arizona-ahcccs-coverage-changes-9-1-2010 - broken link)

According to this article if approximately 24 poor sick people a year that need transplants in Arizona die, the state will be able to save 4 million dollars a year.
Now the state can afford the PR company it hired to repair the states reputation & all the attorney's fees to fight the lawsuits regarding SB1070.
Just think it ONLY took about 24 of those useless deadbeats who drain society<sarcasm
if you don't think more people will die from obamacare rationing of health care, you'd on some serious drugs.
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Old 09-02-2010, 11:44 AM
 
Location: In the desert
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if you don't think more people will die from obamacare rationing of health care, you'd on some serious drugs.
not on any drugs...
I do not believe that making health care available for all equals death sentences. Most other countries have it & this one should too.
I always said after the gays,blacks, & browns that certain members of our society will then consider the poor & sick expendable while worshipping the almighty buck.
This is just the beginning of something much bigger to come.
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