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No, I mean something of substance that backs up the claim that Soros is enslaving and subjugating us, not murky sour-grapes conspiracy BS put out by RW outfits with their own resentful agenda. (Soros made lots of money? He knows how money works? He backs groups he approves of? He approves of s-s-s-social justice? Oh, God, NOOOOO!)
No, I mean something of substance that backs up the claim that Soros is enslaving and subjugating us, not murky sour-grapes conspiracy BS put out by RW outfits with their own resentful agenda. (Soros made lots of money? He knows how money works? He backs groups he approves of? He approves of s-s-s-social justice? Oh, God, NOOOOO!)
Thanks for being ever so predictable. You didn't even read the links to follow the money trail. Evidence is clearly there dear.
How about the judge in Alabama that had the Ten Commandments put in a Alabama state courhouse?
Defense of Marriage Act was supported by democrats. Signed by then President Bill Clinton.
Congress shall make no law establishing a religion. Putting the Ten Commandments up in a state courthouse does not establish a religion. The Ten Commandments can be found all over the place on public property if you look for them.
Defense of Marriage Act was supported by democrats. Signed by then President Bill Clinton.
Congress shall make no law establishing a religion. Putting the Ten Commandments up in a state courthouse does not establish a religion. The Ten Commandments can be found all over the place on public property if you look for them.
It does respect the establishment of a religion though.
People complain about Sharia law, but then don't hold Christian law up to the same standards.
I think "liberal Christians" and liberals who use Christianity to advance their goals (without them being Christian anyway at times) also forget that it was said in the Bible that those who don't work don't eat
It also says this:
Matthew 25:41-43
Quote:
41"Then he will say to those on his left, 'Depart from me, you who are cursed, into the eternal fire prepared for the devil and his angels. 42For I was hungry and you gave me nothing to eat, I was thirsty and you gave me nothing to drink, 43I was a stranger and you did not invite me in, I needed clothes and you did not clothe me, I was sick and in prison and you did not look after me."
I understand by this that those "Christians" who do not feed the hungry, will by cursed into the eternal fire. Who is using Christianity to advance what goals?
[quote=delusianne;15775756]Mad about being forced to help others through Social Security and Medicare?
Would you prefer to give an equal amount in cash to charities, to keep these folks from dying in the street? Charity isn't reliable, or enough; hence social service programs coming into being.
Doesn't the Bible say, "Render unto Caesar that which is Caesar's"? And something about "you are not of the world[quote=delusianne;15775756]
The story of Jesus commanding us to give unto Caesar that which is Caesar's (Matt. 22:15-22; Mark 12:13-17; Luke 20:20-26) is commonly misrepresented as His commanding us to give to Caesar the denari which he asks for (i.e., to pay taxes to government) as--it is assumed--the denari are Caesar's, being that they have Caesar's image and name on them. But Jesus never said that this was so! What Jesus did say though was an ingenious case of rhetorical misdirection to avoid being immediately arrested, which would have interfered with Old Testament prophecy of His betrayal as well as His own previous predictions of betrayal.
When the Pharisees asked Him whether or not it is lawful to pay taxes to Caesar they did so as a ruse in the hopes of being able to either have Him arrested as a rebel by the Roman authorities or to have Him discredited in the eyes of His followers. At this time in Israel's history it was an occupied territory of the Roman Empire, and taxes--which were being used to support this occupation--were much hated by the mass of the common Jews. Thus, this question was a clever Catch-22 posed to Jesus by the Pharisees: if Jesus answered that it is not lawful then the Pharisees would have Him put away, but if He answered that it is lawful then He would appear to be supporting the subjection of the Jewish people by a foreign power. Luke 20:20 makes the Pharisees' intent in asking this question quite clear:
So they watched Him, and sent spies who pretended to be righteous, that they might seize on His words, in order to deliver Him to the power and the authority of the governor.
Thus, Jesus was not free to answer in just any casual manner. Of the Scripture prophecies which would have gone unfulfilled had He answered that it was fine to decline paying taxes and been arrested because of it are the betrayal by Judas (Psalm 41:9; Zech. 11:12,13), and His betrayer replaced (Psalm 109:8--see Acts 1:20); see also Acts 1:15-26 and Psalm 69:25. Here is a quote from Peter on this matter from Acts 1:16:
"Men and brethren, this Scripture had to be fulfilled, which the Holy Spirit spoke before by the mouth of David concerning Judas, who became a guide to those who arrested Jesus."
In Matt. 26:54,56 and Mark 14:49 Jesus testifies to this exact same thing after He was betrayed by Judas. As well, Jesus Himself twice foretold of His betrayal before He was asked the question on taxes--see Matt. 17:22; 20:18; Mark 9:31; 10:33; and Luke 9:44; 19:31. See also John 13:18-30, which testifies to the necessity of the fulfillment of Psalm 41:9, as Jesus here foretells of His betrayal by Judas.
In addition, it appears that the only reason Jesus paid the temple tax (and by supernatural means at that) as told in Matt. 17:24-27 was so as not to stir up trouble which would have interfered with the fulfillment of Old Testament Scripture and Jesus's previous prediction of His betrayal as told in Matt. 17:22--neither of which would have been fulfilled had Jesus not paid the tax and been arrested because of it. Jesus Himself supports this view when He said of it "Nevertheless, lest we offend them . . ." (NKJV), which can also be translated "But we don't want to cause trouble" (CEV). He said this after in effect saying that those who pay customs and taxes are not free (v. 25,26)--yet one reason Jesus came was to call us to liberty (Luke 4:18; Gal. 4:7; 5:1,13,14; 1 Cor. 7:23; 2 Cor. 3:17; James 1:25; 2:12).
It should be remembered in all of this that it was Jesus Himself who told us "Behold, I send you out as sheep in the midst of wolves. Therefore be wise as serpents and harmless as doves." (Matt. 10:16). Jesus was being wise as a serpent as He never told us to pay taxes to Caesar, of which He could have done and still fulfilled Scripture and His previous predictions of betrayal. But the one thing He couldn't have told people was that it was okay not to pay taxes as He would have been arrested on the spot, and Scripture and His predictions of betrayal would have gone unfulfilled. Yet the most important thing in all this is what Jesus did not say. Jesus never said that all or any of the denari were Caesar's! Jesus simply said "Give to Caesar that which is Caesar's." But this just begs the question, What is Caesar's? Simply because the denari have Caesar's name and image on them no more make them his than one carving their name into the back of a stolen TV set makes it theirs. Yet everything Caesar has has been taken by theft and extortion, therefore nothing is rightly his.
Maybe you and your commie friends at the ACLU should study-up on the Bible before cherry-picking quotes to fit your pro-commie beliefs.
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